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Cauldron and Candle
Issue #64 -- November 2005

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In this Issue:

[00] Editorial Notes
[01] Cauldron News
[02] Cauldron Events
[03] Cauldron Discussions
[04] Cauldron Reviews
[05.1] Feature Article: How Useful is a Dream Dictionary
[05.2] Feature Article: Ta Hiera Hellenic Polytheist Association
[06] Interesting Web Sites
[07] Support The Cauldron
[08] Newsletter Information
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Welcome to the November issue of Cauldron and Candle. You are
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Randall Sapphire
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========= by The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum Staff


The Cauldron Wiki provided a way for our members to directly add
content to The Cauldron's web site. Unfortunately few members
ever managed to figure it out, so it has not been used much.
Therefore it will soon be retired and replaced with another way
for members to add their creative works and articles to our web
site. We aren't exactly sure what will replace it as this is
written, but we hope to have whatever is selected up and working
this month.


The new version of Beehive Forums gives us monthly message counts
again. We had 11,898 posts in October -- another new record --
which gives us almost 94,500 messages posted during 2005. Proving
yet again that members of our message board are a very talkative
group of people.

========= by The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum Staff


Your Challenge this month is to do something creative.

No, of course it's not that "easy". I know we have a lot of
people here who do lots of creative things all the time, and this
wouldn't be much of a challenge for them. So there's a twist. Do
something creative, but not something you'd normally do. This
might mean working in a different medium than you're used to, or
it might mean altering what you're doing within your chosen
medium. For instance, knitters might try beadwork, or cooks might
try their hands at drawing. A novelist might try writing a short
story or essay; a poet might try writing fiction for a change.
Those who don't do too much creative have it easy, because they
can pick anything!

Speaking of writing, I do have a more specific suggestion for
those of you who might feel like tackling longer works. I'm sure
many of you are familiar with NaNoWriMo. If you're up to it, I
encourage you to try this. A novel, in a month. It's quite the
Challenge. (And I apologize for not getting this notice up a week
ahead of time like I meant to; I know a week is not a lot of
planning time for something like this, and I had intended to give
a bit more notice, but unfortunately my memory failed me utterly
last weekend and I completely forgot.)

So what are you going to do?

(Thank you to Sperran for inspiring this one!)


========= Recent Discussion Topics on our Message Board

In an average month, over 200 new discussion topics are started
on The Cauldron's message board. Here are a few of the more
interesting recent discussions. It's not too late to join in.

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days we post new site news items to the main page of The
Cauldron's web site. These emails contain a link to the new item
and the first couple of lines of the news text. You can sign up
for Bloglet's free news delivery via the form at the end of the
site "News and Updates" section of The Cauldron's main web page.

===== The Term "Patron"

Over the years, I've seen the word "Patron" (or "Matron" if you'd
rather) used in some vastly different ways depending on the
religion of the person talking.

In the case of Greek Recons, we're seeing something of a backlash
on the usage of the term as it's so frequently used in neo-Wiccan
or Eclectic Pagan circles.

How do you define "patron" or do you choose to use another word?
How do you determine whether or not your relationship with a
deity should be termed a patron relationship? Does the deity
choose the person or the other way around?

And, if you're from a Reconstructionist religion, does this term
mean something different to you and, if so, what?

* Read (or join in) this discussion:

===== Home Made Tarot Cards

I've been working on my own deck for a few months now,
painstakingly selecting images, tweaking them on adobe then
printing them off and piecing them together on cue cards. They
look awesome.

They're also incredibly accurate. During one reading I drew the
devil and the tower and in context it ment that there was going
to be a problem with material posessions. Not more then half an
hour later a shelf with precious heirlooms collapsed. Just
recently during a general reading the layout happened to hint at
a change over in my life and my position of authority... and two
weeks later I was promoted at my job.

I've read how your own energy when making a tarot deck factors
greatly into their usefulness, but this deck goes beyond what
I've ever experienced.

Has anyone else tried making their own Tarot deck?

* Read (or join in) this discussion:

===== Are Technology and Paganism Mutually Exclusive?

I'm not what most would consider your standard Pagan. I spend 6
months of the year hundreds of feet underwater in a cold steel
black tube where there is no sun or moon, the days are 18 hours
long, and I only have artificial light powered from a nuclear
reactor. I am an electronics technician on a nuclear powered
submarine and for most, the job is about as far away from living
a natural life as you can possibly get. Still, I enjoy my job and
still consider myself as much of a Pagan as any other person out
there. So here's my question to you. Do you think you need to
live a "natural lifestyle" to be really Pagan?

Do you need to reject technology to appreciate nature? Do you
need to spend time running through the woods to feel as one with
the universe? Is it a tenet of Paganism (specifically Wicca since
that's what I label myself) to live a life unburdened by the
synthetic and manmade? The bulk of what I read here would make it
seem so. But as one whose lived the life completely isolated from
nature (aside from the whale-songs, dolphin squeals and, more
than anything, the incessent clacking of shrimp that can be heard
from sonar) I would say no. The bond with nature and the universe
is an internal, spiritual thing that cannot be taken from us no
matter where we are. We are, after all, creatures of nature, and
that can never be changed.

I believe in environmentalism as much as any of you, and of
taking care not to damage the earth we live on. But I do not
accept the ideal that technology is somehow inherently evil. I do
not use tea-oil shampoo or eat organic vegetables. Am I wrong to
do so? Am I wrong in my belief that technology and human progress
can coexist peacefully with Paganism and spirituality?

What do you think?

* Read (or join in) this discussion:

===== Most Common Misconceptions About Your Religion?

When you discuss your faith with others, what is the most common
misconception(s) you encounter?

Bonus question: which misconception annoys you the most?

* Read (or join in) this discussion:

===== Timeless Truth?

Plenty of religions say that they have a truth. Some go on to say
that they have the Truth. You know, the timeless kind applicable
to anyone, anywhere, anytime. It follows that since they have the
Truth, everyone should accept and obey it...according to them,

Question time!

1) Do you believe that there is a universal truth? Why or why

2) Assuming it exists, can we comprehend it? Can we come to
understand it purely through our own effort, or must there be
some other agency (e.g. deities, UFOs, etc.)?

3) Is timeless truth necessarily the thing to live by? After all,
what's good for all circumstances mightn't be best for a
circumstance... what do you think?

* Read (or join in) this discussion:

===== Frivolous, Addicting? How Do You Use Your Magic?

I know I'm starting to sound like a fluffy when I talk about
"magical addiction" but it really does happen, and mostly to the
young, impatient, and young in practice. Does anyone here suffer
from it, dealt with it, or help others come to terms with it?

Some people view magic as a tool like anything else, and use it
often, and sometimes for everything they could possibly think of
using it for. I know many witches, magicians, and so forth that
use it for little things like: changing the traffic lights,
getting the waiter's attention, finding the best parking spot,
and what-have-you. The argument often being, "Magic is a tool to
make life easier, and we use it so."

Others view magic as a last resort, only using it after EVERY
OTHER venue has been taken. Often viewed as a "gift" and
"shouldn't be taken lightly."

And still, there are those out there that magic shouldn't be used
save the ut-most EXTREME of times, that may never come up in a
person's life. These are often feats that any average magical
practitioner couldn't even pull off by themselves.
This is leading me into another topic of philosophical interest
that I'll put into another thread.

So, where do you fall? I thought about making this a poll, but it
requires too much explaining to be so.

* Read (or join in) this discussion:


Most of The Cauldron's book reviews are now written by Mike
Gleason. If you would like to contact Mike with comments about
his reviews (or about books you would like to have reviewed), you
can email Mike at:


===== Reviewed by Mike Gleason

The world of L.O.S.T. (Live Oak Springs Township) straddles the
mundane and magickal worlds. To all outer appearances it is a
small town in the desert. It is also a contact point to many
villages disconnected from the normal time/space line and linked
by the Path. Jasmina (Jazz) Corey was Queen of the Witches before
she died at the end of L.O.S.T. and Brenden (Bren) had been
thrust into the role of King of the Witches (okay, it isn't in
touch with reality, but it isn't supposed to be. It's
entertainment, not a teaching book).

Read the full review on our web site:

===== Reviewed by Mike Gleason

Debbie Federici is rapidly becoming one of my favorite fiction
authors. She writes for middle to older teen markets, and she has
a real feel for teen angst. Her characters feel real, no matter
how unreal a situation they find themselves in. Her heroes are
not invincible. Nor are they always obedient. Her villains are
frequently megalomaniacs, but that is a common short-coming of
literary baddies.

Read the full review on our web site:

===== Reviewed by Mike Gleason

The Witches' Almanac has been a source of inspiration and
knowledge for a long time. Although there was a hiatus of several
years, I have copies dating back almost thirty years. This year's
edition is much the same as the ones I have from the early days
in that it contains planting information, pithy (if sometimes
obscure) comments on the calendar pages, and lots of information
scattered throughout. There are news items (somewhat dated, it is
true, but that is not unusual in an annual publication), book
reviews, and an entire section devoted to each of the
astrological signs.

Read the full review on our web site:

===== Reviewed by Mike Gleason

The late Elizabeth Pepper (editor with John Wilcox of The
Witches' Almanac for many years) has produced a bestiary composed
of three classes of animals - tame, wild, and "fabulous." The
entries have been drawn from articles which have appeared in the
Almanac over the year (including this year's edition).

Read the full review on our web site:

===== Reviewed by Mike Gleason

I could claim that I have waited for this book to be written, and
that would be true in general. Thirty years ago, as I began my
studies of Alexandrian Craft, I had seen Lady Gwen's original
article in Green Egg (I was a member of a CAW Nest in Chicago,
and my nest-mate, fellow student, and friend John P. gifted me
with a batch of back issues of the Egg and I carried on from
there). At the time the "grandmother story" was starting to
become a cliche and, since most such claims could not be verified
they were taken with a grain (or more) of salt.

Read the full review on our web site:

===== Reviewed by Mike Gleason

This book is composed of six essays presented as part of two
doctoral theses. If that sounds like scholarly work, you are
right. If you think that makes for dry reading, you might want to
hold that judgment in abeyance for a bit. There are, as to be
expected, a large number of citations of previous works in the
field and it is not, in any way, shape or form compelling
reading. Various experiments are recounted with, to my surprise,
results not significantly varying from what random chance would
have predicted (at least in the overview). Ideas are presented
for further experiments which may help to further refine the

Read the full review on our web site:

=========  by Diane de Villiers

At the start of your dream journey, one of the most frustrating
things is to figure out what the symbolism in your dreams means!
Most often people start their dream conversation with me by
saying: "I had this weird dream " What makes it "weird" is the
strange collection of people, objects, places and events that
take place in the dream.

How do you make sense of it? I guess you'd be thinking that a
dream dictionary is a good place to start.

Then again, the biggest "complaint" I hear is: "I looked up
"such-and-such" in a dream dictionary and it makes absolutely no
sense to me!" Well, I'm not surprised.

Watch out for Dream Dictionary Bloopers!

Some dream dictionaries contain some real whoppers. Here's a
selection from some dubious sources I saw recently [don't laugh 
these are real examples!]:

Burglar - If you catch a burglar in your dream you're about to
inherit some money.

Funeral - signifies news of an engagement or wedding.

Marshmallow - means you will meet a new friend of the opposite

Razor - is a warning to control your temper.

You get the "picture"! These "interpretations" are obviously just
ridiculous. And you can easily see that for yourself 
intuitively you know that these meanings should not be taken

So do you even need a dream dictionary?

Well the answer is "yes" and "no" and "depends".

"Yes" - use a dream dictionary when you're really stuck with a
symbol and you need some inspiration to find the right meaning.
Just make sure you're using a reputable resource and use your
"BS" detector!

"No" - avoid using one when you can immediately relate the symbol
in your dream to something in your waking life and your "gut" is
giving you a positive reaction to the interpretation you've

"Depends" on the reliability of the source of the information.
Don't take any meaning at face value. Test them out first. You
will be able to validate your dream messages in your life. You'll
also automatically collect your own personal dream symbol
dictionary if you're actively journaling and interpreting your
dreams. You'll be able to tell when certain symbols are valid for
you or not.

How to use Dream Symbols

I've collected over 1000 dream symbols in my 10-year dream quest
and have validated them all for myself. Most of them are
universal in nature and I've noticed time and again how the same
meanings appear for the same symbols in reputable research
works... from dream therapists to psycho analysts, psychics,
mystics, shamans and other metaphysicians.

For example: Water - signifies your emotional self, your
intuition and sub-conscious Fire - signifies spiritual and
psychic energy; purification; passion and creativity Earth -
signifies your physical self; reality and practicality;
groundedness Air - signifies your intellectual self; your
thoughts and plans

Taking this a step further, certain "transport vehicles" relating
to Water [emotion], Earth [physical] and Air [thought] signify
how you are coping with these aspects in your life.

For example, if you're in a boat in your dream this represents
how you're coping emotionally: are you gliding smoothly through
the water indicating that your emotions are smooth and calm or
are you being tossed on the waves of a stormy sea indicating
abnormal emotional turmoil that is negatively affecting your
life? You see what I mean?

Your dreams aren't trying to trick you! All you have to do is
learn to understand the language of your dreams and to translate
the imagery you see with your "dream eyes" into useful
information you can use in your waking life.

I like American writer, Gail Godwin's thought on dream symbols:
"Dreams say what they mean, but they don't say it in daytime

=== About the Author

Diane de Villiers is author of the Dream Journey Guide - a step-
by-step, teach-yourself dream interpretation e-course. You can
learn to make sense of your dreams yourself in minutes with the
Dream Journey Guide. For more information and a free preview copy
of the guide go to:

=========  by Randall Sapphire

The Ta Hiera Hellenic Polytheist Association is a new (mainly
online) Hellenic religious organization with a focus on

* the religious needs of individual members and their families
  first (instead of on "hoped to someday have" public groups,
  temples, and highly trained official clergy),

* religious activities and fellowship (rather than on "running
  the organization"), and

* trying to fit and adapt ancient Greek religious practices to
  the modern world (rather than trying to force fit the modern
  world into exactly what the ancient Athenians did) while still
  remaining true to reconstructionist methods.

You can find more information on Ta Hiera on the association's
web site at


(Note: this site is "under construction" concept-site, not all
links work, It will be moved to a permanent host soon, should it
not be available during this move, this site will be mirrored at

Ta Hiera is not yet open for membership but should be soon. If
you are interested in hearing more about Ta Hiera, we have set up
a low traffic announcement mailing list on Yahoo Groups where you
can recieve updates on Ta Hiera and first crack at membership
when the association formally opens its online doors. By joining
this announcement list. you may also get to participate in online
polls that will help the Ta Hiera Board of Directors and other
members of the organizing group determine what potential members
want in the organization. Joining this announcement list does not
obligate you to join Ta Hiera when the association officially

To join the tahiera_announce mailing list from the web, go to:


To join the list via email, send a message to:


You can contact Ta Heira by email at


The initial officers of Ta Hiera will be familiar to most members
of The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum:

   Randall Sapphire, President
   Caroline Julian, Vice President
   Phillip Lindman, Treasuer
   LyricFox, Secretary
   Sara K, Webmaster

=== About the Author

Randall Sapphire is Co-Host of The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum, the
editor of this newsletter, and now President of the Ta Hiera
Hellenic Pagan Association. In his spare time he manages web
sites and does other types of computer support work.

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  religions, especially non-Wiccan religions

* recipes for oils, incenses, and food for the various Pagan

* magick, spells, and ritual information

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* positive articles on dealing with other faiths

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Non-Wiccan material is stressed not because we don't want Wiccan
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===== Book Reviews

While The Cauldron receives some review copies from a couple of
Pagan publishers, there are many books that can only be reviewed
on our web site if a member has a copy and writes a good,
objective review. The Cauldron is interested in reviews on the
more academic books used by reconstructionist Pagan religions as
well as on the books one finds on the Pagan/New Age shelf in the
bookstore. We have a web form you can use to submit a book review
for consideration: http://www.ecauldron.com/bnbbkreviewform.php

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The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum is purposely a low graphics site as
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If you are a regular user of the US version of Amazon, you can
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If you are a regular user of the US version of ebay, you can help
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===== Have Questions or Suggestions?

If you have specific questions, proposals or other ideas we
haven't mentioned here, please email them to
rssapphire00@ecauldron.GETRIDOFEME.com. (Unfortunately, Randall
has to answer general "Tell me more?" type questions with a
request for a more specific question. He's not trying to be rude,
he just can't think of anything general and useful to say that
isn't said here.)

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