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Question: To which Greek deity do you have a deeper personal relationship?
Aphrodite - 10 (6.9%)
Apollon - 11 (7.6%)
Ares - 3 (2.1%)
Artemis - 7 (4.9%)
Athene - 14 (9.7%)
Demeter - 4 (2.8%)
Dionysos - 11 (7.6%)
Eros - 3 (2.1%)
Gaia - 5 (3.5%)
Hekate - 20 (13.9%)
Hephaistos - 0 (0%)
Hera - 6 (4.2%)
Hermes - 16 (11.1%)
Hestia - 4 (2.8%)
Kybele/Rhea - 3 (2.1%)
Poseidon - 3 (2.1%)
Zeus - 5 (3.5%)
another one - 12 (8.3%)
no one in particular - 0 (0%)
I don't honor/work with Greek deities at all - 7 (4.9%)
Total Voters: 68

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« Reply #30: December 06, 2009, 07:11:23 am »

Personally, with respect to Hekate, I think it's at least in part a bunch of people going "OMG A WITCH GODDESS!!!!!!!" and then making her out to be the spooky crone you always read about. Not everyone who worships her, certainly, but a significant chunk.
<nod> If I was suddenly getting a whole bunch of "phone calls" from total strangers, but strangers who had some sort of common ground with each other, I'd be pretty durned interested in that common ground.

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« Reply #31: December 06, 2009, 05:11:08 pm »

<nod> If I was suddenly getting a whole bunch of "phone calls" from total strangers, but strangers who had some sort of common ground with each other, I'd be pretty durned interested in that common ground.

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Well, there's that. But what I actually meant was that I think a lot of doesn't so much actually come from her as it is manufactured by the people that see "witches" or "magic" in her description and don't really bother to do any research beyond the Wicca 101 books put out by a certain popular publisher.
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« Reply #32: December 06, 2009, 05:19:35 pm »

Well, there's that. But what I actually meant was that I think a lot of doesn't so much actually come from her as it is manufactured by the people that see "witches" or "magic" in her description and don't really bother to do any research beyond the Wicca 101 books put out by a certain popular publisher.

I agree. There's a common "shiny" mentality with the new or the particularly ignorant that just sees "Hekate" and "witchy" in the same sentence and runs with it, regardless of the history and context.
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« Reply #33: December 06, 2009, 07:50:04 pm »

Well, there's that. But what I actually meant was that I think a lot of doesn't so much actually come from her as it is manufactured by the people that see "witches" or "magic" in her description and don't really bother to do any research beyond the Wicca 101 books put out by a certain popular publisher.

I suppose there's an element of that, but I don't think it's the case all around. A lot of people (per the poll) connect with her, and TC'er's tend to be less fluffy (the people you describe I would consider fluffy if they didn't get beyond the 101 books). On the forum it seems a lot of people here connect with her as the Greek maiden, not the Roman crone, just based on a quick search. That could make a good thread.  Smiley

I connect with the Archaic/Classical Hecate who was portrayed more like Artemis, especially Hecate Phosphoros and Propolos. Not the crone/"witch" Hecate.

<nod> If I was suddenly getting a whole bunch of "phone calls" from total strangers, but strangers who had some sort of common ground with each other, I'd be pretty durned interested in that common ground.

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That's a good point! I hadn't thought of it that way. Hesiod describes her as a goddess who is interested in the affairs of people, so that might make her even more inclined to respond to the "phone calls" once people were interested in her again.
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« Reply #34: December 06, 2009, 07:52:42 pm »

I suppose there's an element of that, but I don't think it's the case all around. A lot of people (per the poll) connect with her, and TC'er's tend to be less fluffy (the people you describe I would consider fluffy if they didn't get beyond the 101 books). On the forum it seems a lot of people here connect with her as the Greek maiden, not the Roman crone, just based on a quick search. That could make a good thread.  Smiley

TC is a different ball game all around; I (and I believe fiamma, as well) was talking about pagans in general, not those of the TC variety.
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« Reply #35: December 06, 2009, 08:04:01 pm »

TC is a different ball game all around; I (and I believe fiamma, as well) was talking about pagans in general, not those of the TC variety.

Fair enough, it did take forever to find a good statue of her that wasn't neo-crone-witch, or Roman based.
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« Reply #36: December 06, 2009, 11:20:22 pm »

TC is a different ball game all around; I (and I believe fiamma, as well) was talking about pagans in general, not those of the TC variety.

Yah, this.
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« Reply #37: December 07, 2009, 02:27:28 pm »

Well, there's that. But what I actually meant was that I think a lot of doesn't so much actually come from her as it is manufactured by the people that see "witches" or "magic" in her description and don't really bother to do any research beyond the Wicca 101 books put out by a certain popular publisher.
Clarification (which I should have done in the first place):  I was responding both to you, and to what Adare said in this post.

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« Reply #38: December 08, 2009, 03:02:37 am »

I am dedicated to Eros, but I'm no reconstructionist. It's much more conservative than you might think such a relationship would demand (he's sort of a father figure for me) and it's still in-process.

I've also interacted closely with Hecate, Pluto, Persephone, Psyche, Iris, Morpheus and likely many others.
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« Reply #39: December 08, 2009, 05:57:20 pm »

Well, there's that. But what I actually meant was that I think a lot of doesn't so much actually come from her as it is manufactured by the people that see "witches" or "magic" in her description and don't really bother to do any research beyond the Wicca 101 books put out by a certain popular publisher.

I've noticed this on other forums some people also don't get past the ghost and demon parts in some book descriptions.

Fair enough, it did take forever to find a good statue of her that wasn't neo-crone-witch, or Roman based.

Lucky you I'm still looking though I'm starting to think it would be easier to make one myself
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« Reply #40: December 08, 2009, 06:22:24 pm »

Lucky you I'm still looking though I'm starting to think it would be easier to make one myself

The one I ended up with was her as a maiden, running, with torches. It's based (if I remember correctly) on some of the pottery, the scene of her leading Persephone back up from Hades.
http://www.goddessgift.net/images/HEC%20with%20Torch-front-lrg.jpg

If you go to all the Hecate images, it's the 4th one down http://www.goddessgift.net/page54.html. I also love the one of her with Cybele seated, but haven't found that one that's of good quality.

Good luck with your search  Smiley
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« Reply #41: December 08, 2009, 06:59:08 pm »

My guess would be that Apollon gets the most...

Why, because he's awesome?

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« Reply #42: January 10, 2010, 12:02:11 pm »

Since I am Hellenic and worship all the Greek Deities, I may have had a harder time than most of those who took the poll.  However, I managed to narrow it down to Hermes, Dionysus and Hekate.

And Perzephone (the one with a 'z') is right.  Hades and Persephone (the one with an 's') are important deities and both played a key role in the most prominent mystery religion in antiquity.

It's so nice to meet a fellow Hellenic Pagan!  Even though I honor nearly all of the Greeks, my two closest are Hekate and Pan.  After that comes Athene. 
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« Reply #43: January 10, 2010, 12:28:29 pm »

Just because I'm curious... If you work with/honor several of them the question is to which one or couple of do you have a deeper personal relationship.

My guess would be that Apollon gets the most...

Yeah yeah, everyone likes the jock. Wink

Dionysus has been with me the longest. Then Athena showed up, and Pan claimed me this past summer. I work more closely with the Olympians than any other gods, but I don't consider myself Hellenic, because I'm a very scattered, eclectic person. Smiley

Of the rest of the Greek pantheon, I have friendly relations with Hera, Demeter, and Persephone. I've never liked Artemis for several reasons - partly I never identified with her, and partly she seems opposite to Athena. Same goes for her twin - Apollo and Dionysus have been seen at opposite ends of a spectrum, for good reason. Artemis has popped up once in meditation, mostly to snark at me, and then run off. Aphrodite I've never seen any reason to contact before, but I've been using her in spellcraft recently and strangely, it seems to be a good fit.

Not a fan of Hekate, but she's my friend's patron so we tolerate each other. (I'm also feeling pulls from the Morrighan, who's giving me Hekate-ish vibes.) Hermes too is a patron of my friend, so I try to be nice to him. Not a fan of Ares, and I'm pretty neutral on the rest of the gang.
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« Reply #44: January 10, 2010, 07:11:32 pm »


I voted Hera, because She's the only one from the Greek pantheon I'm close to. I acknowledge Zeus sometimes along with Her, but that's it (I don't have a personal relationship with Him).
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