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« Topic Start: May 10, 2007, 09:58:32 pm »

I wasn't sure exactly where to put this.  I mean, true Celtic Re-enactment could be considered a hobby, but it might actually fit under the Celtic Reconstructionism SIG given that we were LIVING as close to a typical daily life of a Celt as a modern person can get.

Anyway, here are some pics and descriptions of what we did: http://celticclans.oakandacorn.com/coc2007.html

Additionally, here's info on our main feature; the stone oven: http://celticclans.oakandacorn.com/projects/oven.html
 
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« Reply #1: May 10, 2007, 10:55:40 pm »

Additionally, here's info on our main feature; the stone oven: http://celticclans.oakandacorn.com/projects/oven.html
 

That was interesting. I had no idea so little about this was known from archeology. 
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« Reply #2: May 10, 2007, 11:40:11 pm »

I mean, true Celtic Re-enactment...we were LIVING as close to a typical daily life of a Celt as a modern person can get.

While I can really appreciate the purpose of the group and as a Ren Fest junkie it looks like a lot of fun, I'm a bit confused with your (and the site's) claim.  Both you and the site says "ancient celtic re-enactment" but all I see from the pictures is renaissance to modern clothing, cooking utensils and tools.  Now I did see on the regulations that the groups are divided into era based clans, but it says nothing about the actual clans themselves.  So I have to ask: how "re-enactment" is the group really trying to be?  Please don't take my questioning the wrong way and try to understand where I'm coming from.  I'm here in Houston where Texas re-enactment is taken very seriously (and don't get me started on the Civil War re-enactors I ran into while attending college in Mississippi or my husband's participation in WWII re-enactment!).  You can be denied participation if your clothing is machine stitched, made with modern fabrics or prints, or just 5 years before fashion, so I just wanted to know if the group is really claiming to perform "re-enactment" or if re-enactment is what the group is working towards?  Perhaps if you can describe the actual clans for me it might help me to understand.
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« Reply #3: May 11, 2007, 07:12:41 am »

Randall - Yes, in some areas (including many Celtic sites) all archaeologists have to go on are things as scant as post holes.  From there they have to extrapolate it into a complete building.  Sometimes the basis for extrapolation is easily based (perhaps nearby there was a nearly complete structure with a similar layout), and sometimes they are just guessing (IMO this is often where a lot of the religious supposition falls).

Tirah - That's fine and your question brings up a point I should mention on the "Projects" pages.  No, we don't always or often dress up when we're doing an "experimental archeology" project unless it's determined that the clothing would affect the outcome.  For instance wearing a fleece while cutting logs for the shaving horse would have little impact on building the shaving horse.  However, wearing a fleece while testing the effectiveness of the Hudfats (primitive sleeping bags) would have a huge and unacceptable impact.

As far as the other photos go, somewhere there should be the disclaimer that many of the earlier ones "for better or worse have documented or research mistakes as well as our progress towards authenticity."  Currently, our group is made up of members who are portraying Late Iron Age Ireland (0-600CE).  Though much of those accoutrements are also appropriate for Iron Age Briton (200BCE-100CE) and *some* are ok for Iron Age Continental Celts too.

The over all goal of the group is to teach the public about the Celts and have "no visible anachronisms" while doing it. Many of our members are already there with their clothing and accoutrements.  As far as the camp goes, our biggest anachronism was the cast iron cookware and incorrect food containers; that's our next project.  We will be making all wrought iron or bronze cookware.  But, at out last demo (Celebration of Celts) our camp was probably 65%-75% period correct.
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« Reply #4: May 11, 2007, 10:43:17 am »

Tirah - That's fine and your question brings up a point I should mention on the "Projects" pages.  No, we don't always or often dress up when we're doing an "experimental archeology" project unless it's determined that the clothing would affect the outcome.  For instance wearing a fleece while cutting logs for the shaving horse would have little impact on building the shaving horse.  However, wearing a fleece while testing the effectiveness of the Hudfats (primitive sleeping bags) would have a huge and unacceptable impact.

As far as the other photos go, somewhere there should be the disclaimer that many of the earlier ones "for better or worse have documented or research mistakes as well as our progress towards authenticity."  Currently, our group is made up of members who are portraying Late Iron Age Ireland (0-600CE).  Though much of those accoutrements are also appropriate for Iron Age Briton (200BCE-100CE) and *some* are ok for Iron Age Continental Celts too.

The over all goal of the group is to teach the public about the Celts and have "no visible anachronisms" while doing it. Many of our members are already there with their clothing and accoutrements.  As far as the camp goes, our biggest anachronism was the cast iron cookware and incorrect food containers; that's our next project.  We will be making all wrought iron or bronze cookware.  But, at out last demo (Celebration of Celts) our camp was probably 65%-75% period correct.

Oh, Ok.  I get it now.  It really sounds like fun!  To bad I'm too far away to join in!
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« Reply #5: May 11, 2007, 12:48:28 pm »

Additionally, here's info on our main feature; the stone oven:

Groovy.  I adore mass ovens (planning to build one out of cob one o' these days).  Nicely done!

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« Reply #6: May 11, 2007, 02:26:56 pm »

Thank you very much.

An interesting side note - We had oriented the oven into the wind to help fan the flames, and this worked wonderfully.  It also meant the oven was positioned facing an access road used patrons, vendors, musicians, etc.  Those that were in vehicles would often stop the car in the middle of the road to gape at the oven.  And by the beginning of the second day word had spread around the event that we had people stopping in saying "So where's this oven?",  "I came to see the oven."  Or, "I heard you were baking bread in the ground."

It was just fantastic!
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« Reply #7: May 11, 2007, 02:46:19 pm »

Tirah, there IS a comparable Celtic group in TX called Coritani.  They run a Celtic re-enactors' forum known as "Kelticos"

http://www.texascoritani.com/
http://www.kelticos.org

I don't know how close they are to Houston, Texas IS a big state after all.  But you might get lucky!

 

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« Reply #8: May 11, 2007, 07:35:29 pm »

I don't know how close they are to Houston, Texas IS a big state after all.  But you might get lucky!

They list Austin weather on their homepage so I am going to guess they are in or near Austin. That's about a 4 hour drive from Houston -- not all that bad for Texas.
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