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« Topic Start: January 04, 2010, 01:29:50 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

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Personally, my religion STARTS at the point of "we're all wrong about something.  What IS is a lot bigger than what we can grapple with.  So we're going to fall short - and that's okay".

So I'm quite sure I'm wrong about stuff.  In fact, with that as a main tenet of my religion, I HAVE to be - if I'm right about everything else, I'm wrong on that! Cheesy
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« Reply #1: January 04, 2010, 01:40:56 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

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Personally, my religion STARTS at the point of "we're all wrong about something.  What IS is a lot bigger than what we can grapple with.  So we're going to fall short - and that's okay".

So I'm quite sure I'm wrong about stuff.  In fact, with that as a main tenet of my religion, I HAVE to be - if I'm right about everything else, I'm wrong on that! Cheesy

I don't follow a religion... instead I do try to look to science and what is written about energy.
I also deal with ghost, spirits and such... so I have to take that into account.
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« Reply #2: January 04, 2010, 01:45:40 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

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Personally, my religion STARTS at the point of "we're all wrong about something.  What IS is a lot bigger than what we can grapple with.  So we're going to fall short - and that's okay".

So I'm quite sure I'm wrong about stuff.  In fact, with that as a main tenet of my religion, I HAVE to be - if I'm right about everything else, I'm wrong on that! Cheesy

I don't mind it because I know I don't know the truth. I have never had an issue with people challenging my beliefs. As a matter of fact, I enjoy this, it strengthens and weakens some ideas and that is good because I want to improve and evolve as a person. I did not grow up in a monotheistic household and I find that monotheistic religions are heavily based on orthodoxy (correct belief).

To me, it is more about orthopraxy so being conceptually/philosophically wrong or right is not essential to my tradition.

I hope this made sense.
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« Reply #3: January 04, 2010, 01:47:41 pm »


One of the tenets of my faith is: "We are fallible. As humans our perspective is limited: incomplete cannot be infallible. Therefore we accept that if there is any One True Way or Absolute Truth, we cannot know it in its entirety, and do not claim to follow it."

I am a natural skeptic, and I have always acknowledged the possibility that I could be wrong about some things, about everything, but I generally run on the assumption that I'm right. It makes life easier. Without divine intervention, or some sort of hard evidence that divinity does not exist, my beliefs are unlikely to change; as long as I'm not hurting myself or anyone else, and they enrich my life, who cares if I'm right or wrong? I don't. As for what could happen if I'm wrong- I have no idea. I think that would depend largely on what was right, really, and it's not something I really spend my time speculating on.
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« Reply #4: January 04, 2010, 01:54:50 pm »

I am a natural skeptic, and I have always acknowledged the possibility that I could be wrong about some things, about everything, but I generally run on the assumption that I'm right. It makes life easier. Without divine intervention, or some sort of hard evidence that divinity does not exist, my beliefs are unlikely to change; as long as I'm not hurting myself or anyone else, and they enrich my life, who cares if I'm right or wrong? I don't. As for what could happen if I'm wrong- I have no idea. I think that would depend largely on what was right, really, and it's not something I really spend my time speculating on.

I was trying to figure out how to answer this one, but you've done it for me.  Smiley  This, pretty much.
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« Reply #5: January 04, 2010, 04:13:56 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

I don't have faith, in the sense that it is generally used.  (Of course I have an implicit faith in the safety of leaving the house, of friends not suddenly turning on me, etc).

I 'believe' in following the evidence.  My worldview is based on the evidence I currently see.  If new evidence comes to light, I may need to change my worldview.  How traumatic this is may depend on what the new evidence is.  (if it's Godzilla-like, I probably won't be too happy to see it).
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« Reply #6: January 04, 2010, 08:50:18 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?


I quite happily accept I may be wrong about lots of things. Even things I've always known. Having said that I would prefer to not be wrong about some things and end up burning in hell for all eternity. So my plan is on dying while awake so if I need to I can make a deathbed plea for forgiveness to a mainstream god if I feel i have made the wrong choices my entire life.  Smiley
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« Reply #7: January 04, 2010, 09:57:45 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

It's quite possible that I am wrong about my religious beliefs. Given that the Gods are not walking among us obviously being Gods and directing our beliefs directly, I think this is true of any religious belief. I think that people unwilling to admit even the possibility that they might be wrong are deceiving themselves -- mistaking what they believe to be true for what they know to be true.
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« Reply #8: January 05, 2010, 01:58:14 am »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

I could be wrong in my beliefs, and it is something that I have been thinking about a lot recently (probably because I am housebound at the moment-can't even go into the garden or watch Elizabeth in the snow) as I fast approach my 35th birthday. If I am wrong, then one of the main supports of my sanity will dissolve as it is one of the most central things in my life and is something that I take a lot of comfort from and take pride in. Also, all my crystals (which I have spent rather a large amount on over the years) are just shiny rocks on a shelf.

However, saying all that, I don't think that I am wrong. There has been too much evidence for me to think negatively for very long. I love being a Witch and I love being close to the wonderful Deities that talk to me (I don't even really mind when they yell at me for something). My beliefs make me happy, and I guess that is all that is needed.

BTW Everfool-if any Godzilla type creature comes stomping around near my house, I am blaming you, and you can drive up here and help to clean up the mess! OK?
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« Reply #9: January 05, 2010, 10:49:45 am »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

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Personally, my religion STARTS at the point of "we're all wrong about something.  What IS is a lot bigger than what we can grapple with.  So we're going to fall short - and that's okay".

So I'm quite sure I'm wrong about stuff.  In fact, with that as a main tenet of my religion, I HAVE to be - if I'm right about everything else, I'm wrong on that! Cheesy

Soft agnosticism? Oh, yea, I think that anyone who really considers things critically is agnostic on some level. Even some Christians are, and their belief-system generally calls for gnosticism.

However, not to be PITA: suppose some of us are wrong about being wrong? What then?
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BTW Everfool-if any Godzilla type creature comes stomping around near my house, I am blaming you, and you can drive up here and help to clean up the mess! OK?

I don't have a poop-scooper that large.
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« Reply #11: January 05, 2010, 11:07:38 am »

I don't have a poop-scooper that large.

Then you'd either get building, or send him South instead of towards me in the North!  Wink
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« Reply #12: January 05, 2010, 12:16:24 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?  What's the worst that might happen if you're wrong?

I am probably wrong, yes. But I have no way to know what is right, and even if I had, I don't know if I would be able to understand. So, I'll keep on believing what I believe until the gradual change on my beliefs makes me believe something else.

If, for some reason, I get a clear evidence that I am wrong and evidence of what is the truth of the Universe regarding religion, I will probably change my beliefs (in time, I'm sure I'll have a denial stage first, and then gradually I'll start believing whatever the truth seems to be).
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« Reply #13: January 05, 2010, 12:24:35 pm »

What do those words mean to you in a religious sense?  Do you ever entertain the thoughts of what you might be wrong about, and what that means to your faith?


Coming from my point of view if I am wrong so what.  Hopefully it is something I can learn from if someone actually points it out to me.  Being Asatru I realize that within my own beliefs there are many factions and divisions on many topics.  Unlike some I know, I do not need historical evidence that something was done a certain way for me to practice my faith.  I do believe there are many things I am wrong about, but I do my best to honor the gods and goddesses MY way.
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« Reply #14: January 05, 2010, 02:30:31 pm »

However, not to be PITA: suppose some of us are wrong about being wrong? What then?

That doesn't even make sense.

What does being wrong mean /to you/?  simply saying "lots of people are" doesn't really address what it means to you - or even if YOU are soft agnostic.
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