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« Topic Start: January 22, 2010, 12:22:51 pm »

For those of us who care about a functional democracy in the U.S., this is bad. Really bad.

"With a single, disastrous 5-to-4 ruling, the Supreme Court has thrust politics back to the robber-baron era of the 19th century. Disingenuously waving the flag of the First Amendment, the court’s conservative majority has paved the way for corporations to use their vast treasuries to overwhelm elections and intimidate elected officials into doing their bidding...."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/opinion/22fri1.html?hp

This is very dispiriting for a liberal like me, esp. on the heels of the Mass. election result. As a friend of mine put it: "Doesn't this feel like a chapter from a text book on how empires implode? Paralysis at home, over-reach abroad, mounting debt, and the disappearance of any political center. I feel so defeated."
 

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« Reply #1: January 22, 2010, 12:26:14 pm »

For those of us who care about a functional democracy in the U.S., this is bad. Really bad.

"With a single, disastrous 5-to-4 ruling, the Supreme Court has thrust politics back to the robber-baron era of the 19th century. Disingenuously waving the flag of the First Amendment, the court’s conservative majority has paved the way for corporations to use their vast treasuries to overwhelm elections and intimidate elected officials into doing their bidding...."

Gods, this is just depressingly awful! I thought things were bad in the UK.....
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« Reply #2: January 22, 2010, 12:54:04 pm »

And it really does go both ways.

CEOs to Hill: Quit calling us for campaign cash

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100122/ap_on_bi_ge/us_campaign_finance_ceos
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« Reply #3: January 22, 2010, 08:41:10 pm »

"With a single, disastrous 5-to-4 ruling, the Supreme Court has thrust politics back to the robber-baron era of the 19th century. Disingenuously waving the flag of the First Amendment, the court’s conservative majority has paved the way for corporations to use their vast treasuries to overwhelm elections and intimidate elected officials into doing their bidding...."

  I absolutely loathe political commercials as they have been.  Just the thought of future ones, paid for by big business. makes me want to runaway and hide when elections, of any sort, come around.
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« Reply #4: January 22, 2010, 08:43:55 pm »

  I absolutely loathe political commercials as they have been.  Just the thought of future ones, paid for by big business. makes me want to runaway and hide when elections, of any sort, come around.

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« Reply #5: January 22, 2010, 11:07:47 pm »

This is downright depressing. How is the underdog supposed to get anything this way? The majority will always win. Just shows this country only cares about money.
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« Reply #6: January 23, 2010, 10:14:26 am »

This is downright depressing. How is the underdog supposed to get anything this way? The majority will always win. Just shows this country only cares about money.
-Devo

The majority has usually won in this country, unlike some 3rd world places where the minority maintains power thru brute force.

On the plus sides:
- buy shares in companies to get their reports to see how much money they donate and WHY they donate.
- read the contribution disclosure reports and see who has given money to whom.

Also you can always protest companies that donate to things you don't like, such as the boycott of the theater for the Sundance Film Festival since it's owner donated to pass Prop 8 in California.

I suspect that most companies will not donate to political campaigns any more than they already do via PACs etc.
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« Reply #7: January 23, 2010, 12:37:19 pm »

On the plus sides:
- buy shares in companies to get their reports to see how much money they donate and WHY they donate.
- read the contribution disclosure reports and see who has given money to whom.

And on the negative side:

Those two things take more time and money. I've got enough invested in trying to keep up with political information from the usual sources without having to act like my own stockbroker. That's one reason I really hate this ruling.
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« Reply #8: January 24, 2010, 12:11:11 am »

For those of us who care about a functional democracy in the U.S., this is bad. Really bad.


A contrary opinion to the NYT opinion piece>

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=269298782276

It's from Glen greenwald. It's probably on his Salon page, but I found it on FB first.
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« Reply #9: January 24, 2010, 03:08:49 am »

And on the negative side:

Those two things take more time and money. I've got enough invested in trying to keep up with political information from the usual sources without having to act like my own stockbroker. That's one reason I really hate this ruling.

I was showing all this to my dad yesterday evening and I sort of made a comment that he is going to hold against me forever:

Dad: You have to be optimistic-they have time to sort this out
Sharon: There's nothing wrong with blind optimism as long as it isn't short sighted


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« Reply #10: January 24, 2010, 09:56:50 am »

Dad: You have to be optimistic-they have time to sort this out
Sharon: There's nothing wrong with blind optimism as long as it isn't short sighted



Well, I hate to say it, but you pretty much nailed the mentality of my country right on the spot, regardless of party politics and personal beliefs!
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« Reply #11: January 28, 2010, 07:15:18 pm »

ROFLMAO...it may read like something from The Onion, but it's not.

Corporation Runs For Maryland Congressional Seat To Protest SCOTUS Campaign Finance Decision
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/28/corporation-election/
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« Reply #12: January 29, 2010, 11:43:14 am »

ROFLMAO...it may read like something from The Onion, but it's not.

Corporation Runs For Maryland Congressional Seat To Protest SCOTUS Campaign Finance Decision
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/28/corporation-election/

ROTFL!!!!!
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« Reply #13: January 29, 2010, 12:12:43 pm »

ROFLMAO...it may read like something from The Onion, but it's not.

Corporation Runs For Maryland Congressional Seat To Protest SCOTUS Campaign Finance Decision
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/28/corporation-election/

Brilliant. If corporations have the same free speech rights as individuals, than this is only logical.
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« Reply #14: January 31, 2010, 12:45:45 pm »


Psychologists: Propaganda works better than you think

Science seldom interacts with the legal world, more's the pity. But the latest big Supreme Court decision, Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission, has some scientists talking about the difference between the legal view of human psychology and what the evidence shows.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/2010-01-22-psychology-political-propoganda_N.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomScienceAndSpace-TopStories+%28Tech+-+Science+and+Space+-+Top+Stories%29 USA Today
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