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Author Topic: Correlating Egyptian terms/concepts  (Read 4270 times)
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« Reply #3: February 04, 2010, 12:41:20 pm »

If anyone is not familiar with the Lower, Middle and Upper Worlds, you find this in shamanic work as well as other traditions and cultures, and the basic idea is that the ower World is the realm of the dead, the ancestors, the ancient ones; the Middle World is the realm we inhabit and includes the spirits of the natural world in this realm (stones, land spirits, herbs/plants, animals, etc); and the Upper World is the realm of the angelic and divine beings (archangels, gods/goddesses, that sort of thing).  Iím sure thatís highly simplistic (and, hopefully, a correct representation of each of the realms Ė feel free to correct me if needed).

So, one wonders if there are similar concepts and terms from the Egyptian perspective ?

From what I've read, the Duat isn't actually under anything.  I don't have my source with me at the moment but the Duat seems to be the realm that exists just beyond the twilight.  Different sources give it different geographical placements (to the north, west, etc.) but what matters is not so much where it's located so much as the journey through it.  The gods and goddesses are said to pass through the Duat at night but are not limited to dwelling there, because they are also immanent in the physical world, or what you might call the Middle World.  

Is there a word for the realm of the akhu (the northern sky, the imperishable stars) that might differentiate it from the realms of the duat that one navigates in order to become an akh ?

This idea of being one of the northern stars is I think an early one reserved for royalty and the privileged few.  However this is not the only place one can end up.  One could also ride the sun barque with Ra.  Actually I think there 5 different places someone can end up in, sometimes maybe even all of them.  As the religion evolved, earlier conceptions did not become replaced or fade away.  Rather new ideas were incorporated with older ones.

But I thought Iíd put it out there and see if anyone had insights and thoughts on this...or perhaps has one or more references they might direct me and the person asking toward for more in depth study and understanding.

I'm pretty sure I got most of this from "Temples of the Cosmos" by Jeremy Naydler.  Take care to notice that his writing has some Hermetic influence so some of his conclusions might be a bit biased to fit that philosophy, since when I read it there were a couple things that didn't sound too Egyptian.  For the most part it's a really great source for a beginner who wants to know more about basic ideas of the religion.  

I'd also recommend "The Ancient Gods Speak" edited by Donald Redford as I'm pretty sure there's a section on the Duat in there, but I'll have to recheck it.

And I'm also pretty sure that the different ideas of where people go when they die was quoted in Jan Assmann's "The Search for God in Ancient Egypt" but I'll have to recheck that.

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