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« Reply #15: March 12, 2010, 10:15:48 pm »

Dear. Fucking. Lord. They took Thomas Jefferson out of American History.

http://tfninsider.org/2010/03/11/blogging-the-social-studies-debate-iv/


Amazing, isn't it?

I have to wonder, though, if there isn't going to be some pushback on this one. Perhaps they've gone too far.
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« Reply #16: March 12, 2010, 10:21:39 pm »

Dear. Fucking. Lord. They took Thomas Jefferson out of American History.

They are trying to rewrite the history books to legitimize their claims that the US was a Christian nation from the very beginning and one of the ways he does it is by writing out the guy that mentioned the wall seperating church and state.  The problem with this is that Jefferson is not Millard Fillmore -- he actually did things that are still remembered today.  The man's face is on Mount Rushmore for crying out loud.

This will sure make teaching the Louisiana Purchase interesting.
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« Reply #17: March 12, 2010, 10:24:49 pm »

I have to wonder, though, if there isn't going to be some pushback on this one. Perhaps they've gone too far.

You mean they haven't already?
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« Reply #18: March 12, 2010, 11:00:51 pm »

They are trying to rewrite the history books to legitimize their claims that the US was a Christian nation from the very beginning and one of the ways he does it is by writing out the guy that mentioned the wall seperating church and state.  The problem with this is that Jefferson is not Millard Fillmore -- he actually did things that are still remembered today.  The man's face is on Mount Rushmore for crying out loud.

This will sure make teaching the Louisiana Purchase interesting.

One of the comments on some story I was reading was absolutely telling. The gist of it was that liberals had been in control of curriculum for too long; now it was the conservatives turn.

I honest to god am appalled that everything is summed up by these people by a win/loss column.
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« Reply #19: March 12, 2010, 11:01:53 pm »

You mean they haven't already?

Oh I think they have, definitely. But in all honesty most of their maneuvers have been more subtle. This one is out front with trumpets blaring.
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« Reply #20: March 12, 2010, 11:10:21 pm »

Oh I think they have, definitely. But in all honesty most of their maneuvers have been more subtle. This one is out front with trumpets blaring.

After a time of only talking to people and working with people that think exactly like they do, I think that extremist groups lose sight of reality.

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« Reply #21: March 13, 2010, 02:53:10 am »

Oh I think they have, definitely. But in all honesty most of their maneuvers have been more subtle. This one is out front with trumpets blaring.

I thought they did something similar a couple years back and the people in charge of it happening got the boot.  Maybe I'm thinking of Oklahoma though...
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« Reply #22: March 13, 2010, 03:01:44 am »

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« Reply #23: March 13, 2010, 08:49:27 am »

This will sure make teaching the Louisiana Purchase interesting.

I think I'm missing something here.  Because reading what Lyric linked to, it looks like they're not suggesting taking Jefferson out of the curriculum entirely, but rather just not including him in a particular part of the curriculum focusing on political philosophy.  Which is bad enough in and of itself (as the linked-to content points out), but not the same as completely ignoring his existence.

What am I missing?...  Huh
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« Reply #24: March 13, 2010, 11:13:32 am »

I think I'm missing something here.  Because reading what Lyric linked to, it looks like they're not suggesting taking Jefferson out of the curriculum entirely, but rather just not including him in a particular part of the curriculum focusing on political philosophy.  Which is bad enough in and of itself (as the linked-to content points out), but not the same as completely ignoring his existence.

What am I missing?...  Huh

Well it was in the link Finn posted, not Lyric.  I guess that I was so blinded by rage at the idea that I missed the part of only removing him from the "political thinkers" part of the curriculum.  I imagine that the parts they do teach about him (besides before mentioned Louisiana Purchase) would be along the lines of: "Thomas Jefferson was first and foremost a hypocrite."  From that simple truth, it will be nothing but demonization from there on.

I also wonder how they would handle the fact that many pro-slavery people used The Bible to justify the practice?  You would think that would cause some students to recognize the parallels to what the RR is doing today.  Heck, they could also go back to the Salem Witch Trials and inadvertantly teach kids what happens when a bunch of religious fanatics have absolute control over the government.

*smacks forehead*

Silly me, those parts will probably be glossed over.
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« Reply #25: March 13, 2010, 04:59:49 pm »

They are trying to rewrite the history books to legitimize their claims that the US was a Christian nation from the very beginning and one of the ways he does it is by writing out the guy that mentioned the wall seperating church and state.  The problem with this is that Jefferson is not Millard Fillmore -- he actually did things that are still remembered today.  The man's face is on Mount Rushmore for crying out loud.

This will sure make teaching the Louisiana Purchase interesting.

I take it they're going to skip the Barbary Pirates and the Treaty of Tripoli as well?
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« Reply #26: March 13, 2010, 05:09:24 pm »

I take it they're going to skip the Barbary Pirates and the Treaty of Tripoli as well?

Eh, those are not normally covered in grade school history anyway.  I only heard about them when I took a college history class last year.
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« Reply #27: March 13, 2010, 05:15:19 pm »

Eh, those are not normally covered in grade school history anyway.  I only heard about them when I took a college history class last year.

Ah, you're right.  It's been a hot minute since I was in school.  High school and college tend to blur together sometimes.  LOL
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