Paganism on TV -- Last Night's "House" Episode

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[mandrina]

I think they were making the guy out to be an utter twit.  House doesn't usually go shallow on the research.  I think it would have been a totally different outcome in relation to the plot had the book been something like Diary of a Drug Fiend. 

I think it was mainly to point out that in his shoddy practice he would be foolish enough to concoct and eat something without knowing what it was.  The point might have been better made with an $RW book though!

Oh heck yes, House does go shallow in the research, especially the medical research.  I got to post that blog. . . . .

[Sperran]

It's not the "chillable" in and of itself that makes me shudder, it's combining that with the other, er, features to enable a more true-to-the-books sexual fantasy starring the aforementioned sparkly emotionally abusive eternal teen.  Because it's not enough to just make a specially-sparkly one, it's got to be cold just like vampires are supposed to be too.

I agree.

[Aster Breo]

I agree.

Dang.

I get sick and I'm gone for a few days and just look what happens.  I miss all the sparkly, cold fun. 

[Owl]

Dang.

I get sick and I'm gone for a few days and just look what happens.  I miss all the sparkly, cold fun. 

We saved it for you!

[Aster Breo]

We saved it for you!

Gee, thanks.   

[Mandi]

Oh heck yes, House does go shallow in the research, especially the medical research.  I got to post that blog. . . . .

Research may be the wrong word.  Plot layering on the other hand, I've yet to see an inference that didn't have a tie in in the final outcome.  This scenario being no different. 

[mandrina]

Research may be the wrong word.  Plot layering on the other hand, I've yet to see an inference that didn't have a tie in in the final outcome.  This scenario being no different. 

That I would agree with.  Most shows do that, try not to have unused inferences.

[Melamphoros]

Related to the above:

Next week's brand new episode of Bones is going to feature what looks like a Wiccan coven as its major plot point.  The promo that aired during tonight's episode's credits seemed to indicate that a lot of jokes will be made regarding this.  Then again, it's a promo

Just got finished watching this.  The Wiccan coven was more or less your standared fluffy all light and goodness type and they were (accidently) involved in the murder of the week.  To tell the truth, I found the B-Plot where Hodgens and Angela were stuck in jail much more interesting.

[Aster Breo]

Just got finished watching this.  The Wiccan coven was more or less your standared fluffy all light and goodness type and they were (accidently) involved in the murder of the week.  To tell the truth, I found the B-Plot where Hodgens and Angela were stuck in jail much more interesting.

Ditto.

Average mistakes about the symbolism of the pentagram and things like that, but, all in all, it could have been worse.  Could also have been much better...   

[Hannah]

What did you think of the fact that it ended up being totally irrelevant?  What do you think of these random representations of paganism? 

Disclaimer: I also did not see the episode.

Though I'm not too crazy about incorrect representations, perhaps it's a good thing that paganism (or Wicca, as some consider the two to be separate) is appearing more "casually" in pop culture. In my opinion, it would be wonderful if people could see someone wearing a pentagram and consider them just as "normal" or acceptable as a person wearing a cross. Certainly, it's idealistic, but maybe these subtle little nuances of paganism in pop culture are helping increase tolerance.

Just a thought, not necessarily my opinion. : P

[Aster Breo]

Disclaimer: I also did not see the episode.

Though I'm not too crazy about incorrect representations, perhaps it's a good thing that paganism (or Wicca, as some consider the two to be separate) is appearing more "casually" in pop culture. In my opinion, it would be wonderful if people could see someone wearing a pentagram and consider them just as "normal" or acceptable as a person wearing a cross. Certainly, it's idealistic, but maybe these subtle little nuances of paganism in pop culture are helping increase tolerance.

Just a thought, not necessarily my opinion. : P

Paganism and Wicca are definitely not the same thing.  Paganism is an umbrella term that encompasses many very different religions, of which Wicca is one. 

Although I don't take pop culture depictions of paganism personally, I do wish they'd to a little research.  Almost every pop culture representation of paganism is negative -- meant to be "Ooooooo, spooky!" rather than "normal."  I doubt if that kind of portrayal does anything to increase tolerance.

[Hannah]

Paganism and Wicca are definitely not the same thing.  Paganism is an umbrella term that encompasses many very different religions, of which Wicca is one.

Ahh, I mis-worded that! I didn't mean to say that Wicca and paganism were the same thing at all. I just meant that some pagans do not consider Wicca to be paganism, and I suppose some Wiccans may not consider themselves pagans.

Although I don't take pop culture depictions of paganism personally, I do wish they'd to a little research.  Almost every pop culture representation of paganism is negative -- meant to be "Ooooooo, spooky!" rather than "normal."  I doubt if that kind of portrayal does anything to increase tolerance.

That is a good point, and I especially do not appreciate the inaccurate representations. I didn't see the context of this scene so I didn't realize that it was supposed to be spooky or whatnot.

[dragonfly_high]

Ahh, I mis-worded that! I didn't mean to say that Wicca and paganism were the same thing at all. I just meant that some pagans do not consider Wicca to be paganism, and I suppose some Wiccans may not consider themselves pagans.

I've never heard of anyone who didn't consider Wicca a pagan religion or a Wiccan who didn't consider themselves pagan.  Could you explain why someone wouldn't consider them pagans or themselves pagans?  Not trying to start an argument, it just seems odd.

[Finn]

Dang.

I get sick and I'm gone for a few days and just look what happens.  I miss all the sparkly, cold fun. 

I'm gone for two weeks and this is what I come back to.

It's good to know some things will always be the same, no matter how long you've been away. 

[Hannah]

I've never heard of anyone who didn't consider Wicca a pagan religion or a Wiccan who didn't consider themselves pagan.  Could you explain why someone wouldn't consider them pagans or themselves pagans?  Not trying to start an argument, it just seems odd.

Well, like I said, I'm not sure that I've heard of a Wiccan who wouldn't consider themselves pagan, though I suppose they could be out there. There's a whole mishmosh of different thought.
But I have heard "elitist" pagans who refuse to acknowledge Wicca as a pagan religion due to fluffy stereotypes and the pompous view that "their" paganism is better than others' or some nonsense. Mind you, I don't agree at all, and I wouldn't consider the people I've heard this from to be very embracing of spirituality, but more of the pretentious type. It's a touchy topic. Just note that I'm seventeen, and most of the other pagans I've conversed with are also young (and a good deal ignorant and/or inexperienced, though I'm not trying to make an age stereotype here!).
In a nutshell, it was probably incorrect of me to refer to said people as anything other than self-proclaimed "pagans," no?

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