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« Reply #15: May 02, 2010, 09:06:21 pm »

Looking again at the Amazon page on the Kindle, I think the "Read to Me" feature is new.  So you might not have it if you have an older Kindle model.

I *believe* that the "read to me" feature is also dependent on the title - not all books will have that enabled because of audio rights issues.
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« Reply #16: May 02, 2010, 09:12:03 pm »

Looking again at the Amazon page on the Kindle, I think the "Read to Me" feature is new.  So you might not have it if you have an older Kindle model.

Yeah, unfortunately I'd just come to that conclusion myself--mine is indeed an older one, from back when there was only one model.  I don't see that feature anywhere on mine.  Sad  Sorry!
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« Reply #17: May 02, 2010, 09:23:23 pm »

So, theoretically, with an OCR scanner, I could scan my books (or just the relevant portions).  Those scans could then be read using a text reader program on a computer (assuming the computer can handle it), right?

In theory, yes.  I'm not very familiar with text reader programs, but the scans shouldn't be any different from any other PDF/Word doc/text document/whatever.

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Could a Kindle also read them?

This is where I wish Hubby were home so I could ask him.  I know that he has put things on the Kindle that weren't direct from Amazon, but I don't know if he had to do any kind of processing on them before it would read them.  I'd say a tentative yes, but there might be more involved than simply transferring the file, I'm not sure.  And if Shadow's right about the Read to Me feature being enabled on some books but not others, I couldn't say whether books transferred to the Kindle in this way would have it enabled or not.

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I've also been looking a little bit at the IPad.  My concern there is title availability.  With the Kindle, there are actually several fairly obscure books in my current cart that have Kindle versions. 

Amazon has produced a free app for the iPad that will read Kindle books.  It's not as good as iBooks, IMO, but it's an option... in theory.  I don't see any info on whether it includes the Read To Me feature, and of course Hubby's got the iPad with him so I can't just go check.  Hubby also recently found something that would allow him to convert Kindle books to a format that the iPad can read--though I'll say I have no idea how legal that is.  (I think he's operating on the "I have already bought one electronic copy of this, it is absolutely ridiculous to expect me to buy another for a different device" theory.)  I also don't know anything about what sort of text-reader functionality iBooks includes.  When Hubby gets back I can ask him for more info if you like, though.
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« Reply #18: May 02, 2010, 09:45:27 pm »

When Hubby gets back I can ask him for more info if you like, though.

That would be fantastic.  Thanks!

I'm not going to jump quickly into anything -- they're all major purchases, and will be a tight squeeze.  But if there's something that can help me be something like productive, it's definitely worth looking into carefully.

From the little research I've done so far -- and always assuming I'm understanding what I'm reading  Undecided -- I have the best chance of being able to find things I want to read using the Kindle.  Going through my Amazon cart, it's about a 50-50% chance that something I've put in there (including some rather obscure and specialized titles) already has a Kindle version.  A number of them are free, too, which is great.  Unfortunately, there's no way I can tell whether any particular book has the "read to me" feature disabled.

But if there's a Kindle version for the iPad, or a work-around, that puts the iPad back on the table.  I have to say they look pretty cool in the ads.

Since I've never seen a Kindle or an iPad in person, I have no idea how they "handle", though.

So any feedback you have on either/both of these devices -- or any others I don't know about yet! -- is very welcome.

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« Reply #19: May 02, 2010, 11:58:51 pm »

If I can find a copy of the books in question I could do a bootleg recording of them. My voice isn't that bad, and reading from a book would reduce typos.
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« Reply #20: May 03, 2010, 12:09:28 am »

If I can find a copy of the books in question I could do a bootleg recording of them. My voice isn't that bad, and reading from a book would reduce typos.

Oh, I have books!  Cheesy

I haven't been able to read a book in almost 2 years.  At the time I fell down the stairs, I had just gotten into In Gods We Trust, by Scott Atran.  And I had several books related in some way to ancient Celtic religion stacked up in my to-read pile.  And I've added to that pile since then, in my apparently misplaced optimism.  Then there were all the fiction books, but it should be easier to find audiobooks of those.

Anyway, that's a really nice offer, but I couldn't impose my obscure reading choices on anyone else!  Smiley  If you really feel you'd like to give one a try -- because YOU'RE interested in the subject matter -- drop me a PM or an email, and I'll send you a list of books.  You could pick one and I could send it to you.

But, again, ONLY if you're really interested!
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« Reply #21: May 03, 2010, 06:18:20 am »

That would be fantastic.  Thanks!

I'll put a reminder on my calendar so I won't forget.  Smiley  He'll be back Thursday, late, so it'll probably be next week before I can get anything out of him.

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Since I've never seen a Kindle or an iPad in person, I have no idea how they "handle", though.

So any feedback you have on either/both of these devices -- or any others I don't know about yet! -- is very welcome.

Physically, I like them both.  I prefer having the case for both of them, which of course is an extra expense--though with the iPad it's more about protecting the device than how it feels in my hand.  The Kindle just feels better holding it if it's in its case.  Again, though, I've got an older model, the equivalent of the cheaper one that's available now; I have no idea how the Kindle DX feels.  The Kindle I find to be a bit slow to respond any time I ask it to do something...  And of the two, if I have to do any text entry I think the iPad's virtual keyboard is far preferable to my Kindle's teeny tiny buttons (though, again, I don't know whether that's something that gets better on the DX).  The cheaper Kindle does have a smaller screen, but it's never bothered me, and if you're not planning on reading visually that might not be an issue anyway.

It has just occurred to me, though--I completely forgot, the Kindle should be available now at Target.  So if you have a Target locally, you might be able to go in and see if they've got a display model you could play with.  You could do the same for the iPad at an Apple store or Best Buy that I know of, probably other places too--I'm not sure who-all has them.  AT&T might once the 3G model comes out.  (If you're primarily using it for books, you shouldn't need the 3G, but the physical form will be the same.)  I know nothing about Barnes and Noble's Nook, but they should have a display model you could look at as well if that turns out to be an option.
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« Reply #22: May 03, 2010, 07:32:02 am »

Oh, I have books!  Cheesy

I haven't been able to read a book in almost 2 years.  At the time I fell down the stairs, I had just gotten into In Gods We Trust, by Scott Atran.  And I had several books related in some way to ancient Celtic religion stacked up in my to-read pile.  And I've added to that pile since then, in my apparently misplaced optimism.  Then there were all the fiction books, but it should be easier to find audiobooks of those.

Anyway, that's a really nice offer, but I couldn't impose my obscure reading choices on anyone else!  Smiley  If you really feel you'd like to give one a try -- because YOU'RE interested in the subject matter -- drop me a PM or an email, and I'll send you a list of books.  You could pick one and I could send it to you.

But, again, ONLY if you're really interested!

I've emailed my mom for information - we'll see what she knows.  (legally blind, does a lot of work with disability *stuff*).

And I might be able to do some reading for you as well, once swuggy goes to school.  I'll have time, gods knows, and I enjoy reading for the blind/visually impaired/whatnot.  Only problem is that my voice is apparently quite soothing .. puts my mom to sleep every time .... Cheesy
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« Reply #23: May 03, 2010, 10:33:32 am »

I'm looking for info and advice about electronic book readers, like Kindle, and audiobook "services", like audible.com.

Moon Ivy -

One other option for you, possibly,  is an organisation called BookShare - it's designed to provide electronic texts for text readers or to be manipulated into other visual formats for people who have disabilities that affect their ability to read. We have an account for work (just started this spring), and our learning specialist is over the moon about them - we've got several kids accessing information they were really struggling with before. Based on what you say here, I don't know that you'd qualify (you don't hit the categories they primarily talk about) but I think it might be worth exploring.

http://bookshare.org/_/membership/qualifications has more information - for individual memberships, you would need a doctor (the one who did the cognitive testing) to sign off on it with specifics of why reading is not feasible for you. The really cool thing is that they do their best to get *any* book - they've got contracts with most of the major publishers, and will go get permissions for other stuff as much as they can as needed. (Because it's a very limited distribution, and they're very specific about who gets approved for access, the publishers are often okay with that).

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« Reply #24: May 03, 2010, 01:55:47 pm »

I'll put a reminder on my calendar so I won't forget.

Thanks, Star.  And thanks for the feedback on the Kindle and the iPad!  I didn't know the Kindle was going to be available through Target.  We have several Targets around, so I'll definitely check that out.
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« Reply #25: May 03, 2010, 01:57:10 pm »

I've emailed my mom for information - we'll see what she knows.  (legally blind, does a lot of work with disability *stuff*).

And I might be able to do some reading for you as well, once swuggy goes to school.  I'll have time, gods knows, and I enjoy reading for the blind/visually impaired/whatnot.  Only problem is that my voice is apparently quite soothing .. puts my mom to sleep every time .... Cheesy

Thank you for both contacting your mom and the potential reading offer.  I really appreciate both.  (But you might live to regret the second.  Wink )
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« Reply #26: May 03, 2010, 01:58:53 pm »

One other option for you, possibly,  is an organisation called BookShare

Thanks, Jenett.  This sounds really cool!  I'll definitely check into it.

I just heard from the doctor that the test results and analysis are ready, so we'll see what she has to say.  I'm not sure the tests she did really got at the reading issue as well as I'd hoped they would, so there might be additional testing in my future.  Undecided
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« Reply #27: May 03, 2010, 02:36:05 pm »

Thank you for both contacting your mom and the potential reading offer.  I really appreciate both.  (But you might live to regret the second.  Wink )

Quoting my mother Re: Kindle

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It's better than Boris, but not excellent.
1.  She should get certified for Library of Congress program anyway - you never know what they have on tape and this is the way to get the digital player.
2.  There is another service that will read books onto media - primarily for students but also others.  Her disabilities coordinator will have information (I think it's reading for the blind, but don't remember).
3.  Yes, the Kindle DOES have text to speech.  To determine whether the book is enabled, go to Amazon.com, find the book's Kindle info, and read the description -- it should say whether it's enabled or not.

I've used the text to speech function -- it's not bad.  We listened to a boring report for All College on the thruway last year and it worked pretty well.  It has some oddities (can't pronounce Barak Obama properly, sometimes converts acronyms to roman numerals!!) but it's much better than the IBM reader I used to have for web surfing (Boris). 

Finally, the Kindle is now being sold at Target -- she should try it out!

As far as reading for you - it's GOT to be better than some of the stuff I read for my mother - at least this is MY area of interest! Cheesy
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« Reply #28: May 03, 2010, 02:46:35 pm »

Quoting my mother Re: Kindle

Your mom's comments reminded me of a point I meant to make, but keep forgetting about until too late.  MI, you said you were interested in Celtic materials, correct?  I would expect text-to-speech to have problems with pronunciation there, given that it's probably set up to assume English pronunciation and I know that Gaelic (and Welsh, if applicable) spellings tend not to follow the same rules.

I recognize that having audio with poor pronuciation is better than not having audio at all.  Grin  Just an extra factor to think about, is all (because I'm sure you needed one more  ::runs:Smiley.
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« Reply #29: May 03, 2010, 04:07:39 pm »

Quoting my mother Re: Kindle

As far as reading for you - it's GOT to be better than some of the stuff I read for my mother - at least this is MY area of interest! Cheesy

Thanks, Shad.  I don't know about the Library of Congress program, so that's something else to look into.

There's a whole world out there I know nothing about.  Yet.  Undecided

And let me know when you have time to read.  Cheesy
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