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« Topic Start: May 28, 2010, 11:51:20 am »

The point I want to make with this topic is what YOUR definition of faith is. People can use the word "faith" differently.

The usages include:

-Trusting in the outcome of something.
-Faith being defined as religion, as in "Many people have different faiths".
-Trusting that a certain deity

That's all I can really think of at the moment, but I'm sure you guys have different thoughts and definitions about it. Smiley

So what do you think faith is?
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« Reply #1: May 28, 2010, 12:10:06 pm »

The point I want to make with this topic is what YOUR definition of faith is. People can use the word "faith" differently.

The usages include:

-Trusting in the outcome of something.
-Faith being defined as religion, as in "Many people have different faiths".
-Trusting that a certain deity

That's all I can really think of at the moment, but I'm sure you guys have different thoughts and definitions about it. Smiley

So what do you think faith is?


I really like the fact you used the word "trust." For me, there's a huge difference between believing that something exists and trusting in a person. For example, my hard polytheism lends to the belief that each and every god that ever has, is, or will be thought of (and all the ones that haven't) are just as real as all the others. Does that mean I still have faith in the god presented to me as a Christian going up? Hell no. He dropped the ball, and I can't trust him anymore.
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« Reply #2: May 28, 2010, 12:21:58 pm »

The point I want to make with this topic is what YOUR definition of faith is. People can use the word "faith" differently.

The usages include:

-Trusting in the outcome of something.
-Faith being defined as religion, as in "Many people have different faiths".
-Trusting that a certain deity

That's all I can really think of at the moment, but I'm sure you guys have different thoughts and definitions about it. Smiley

So what do you think faith is?


Faith, to me, is the ability to move forward and trust that things will get better.  That people are basically decent and given a chance will perform as such.  That the world will accept me as I am.

Faith, to me, is active, not passive.  I don't *have* faith - I *live* faith.  If it's not active, I'm doing it wrong. Cheesy
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« Reply #3: May 28, 2010, 04:30:06 pm »

The point I want to make with this topic is what YOUR definition of faith is. People can use the word "faith" differently.

So what do you think faith is?


Very simple: belief without evidence.
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« Reply #4: May 28, 2010, 04:51:33 pm »

Very simple: belief without evidence.

Any sort of evidence, or the scientific proven-in-laboratories kind?
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« Reply #5: May 28, 2010, 05:21:14 pm »

Any sort of evidence, or the scientific proven-in-laboratories kind?

Any really.  The degree of evidence really depends on the particulars.  Of course I'm the one that gets to decide if the evidence is enough.

There is also a further addition for 'blind faith', which is belief in spite of evidence.
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« Reply #6: May 28, 2010, 06:46:58 pm »

Any really.  The degree of evidence really depends on the particulars.  Of course I'm the one that gets to decide if the evidence is enough.

There is also a further addition for 'blind faith', which is belief in spite of evidence.

That's interesting, because the way I've always defined "blind faith" is believing without any evidence (and usually without any questions). Belief in spite of evidence is, in my opinion, ignorance.
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« Reply #7: May 28, 2010, 08:10:20 pm »

The point I want to make with this topic is what YOUR definition of faith is. People can use the word "faith" differently.

The usages include:

-Trusting in the outcome of something.
-Faith being defined as religion, as in "Many people have different faiths".
-Trusting that a certain deity

That's all I can really think of at the moment, but I'm sure you guys have different thoughts and definitions about it. Smiley

So what do you think faith is?


My moment of Blind Faith occurred when  all else failed (everything I tried or thought of did not work), and things worked out as they were supposed to.  At that moment  I also understood, that I did not create myself.   [There had to be something there].
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« Reply #8: May 28, 2010, 10:10:14 pm »

That's interesting, because the way I've always defined "blind faith" is believing without any evidence (and usually without any questions). Belief in spite of evidence is, in my opinion, ignorance.

That's very much like I see it.
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« Reply #9: May 29, 2010, 05:39:44 am »



I use it both as a verb and as a noun. As a verb it means trusting in my beliefs to such an extent that they become the conscious and sometimes subconscious foundation of my actions and choices. As a noun I use it to mean a system of beliefs supported by various degrees of evidence (from zip to empirical). Belief entirely in the absence of evidence I call blind faith. For me ignorance isn't any type of belief; it's the absence of knowledge.
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« Reply #10: May 29, 2010, 08:51:21 am »

I use it both as a verb and as a noun. As a verb it means trusting in my beliefs to such an extent that they become the conscious and sometimes subconscious foundation of my actions and choices. As a noun I use it to mean a system of beliefs supported by various degrees of evidence (from zip to empirical). Belief entirely in the absence of evidence I call blind faith. For me ignorance isn't any type of belief; it's the absence of knowledge.

What about evidence to the contrary? For example, someone who continues to hold racist or sexist beliefs after interacting with people outside their race and sex group, for example. Or for something much more simple, someone who refuses to believe that yes, every single stove eye that you leave on until it's bright red will hurt if you touch it.
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« Reply #11: May 30, 2010, 04:15:13 am »

The point I want to make with this topic is what YOUR definition of faith is. People can use the word "faith" differently.
So what do you think faith is?

When I first think of faith I think of how of…

 I should have faith or trust in something or someone.

 I believe think this can apply in different ways. For example, if you believe that having faith in the gods that your job interview will go well. Maybe having faith that Jesus will relieve you of your sins. Perhaps having faith that the ritual you did last night will grant you everlasting beauty.

The point is having faith in what you believe in.
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« Reply #12: May 30, 2010, 04:25:04 am »

Faith, to me, is active, not passive.  I don't *have* faith - I *live* faith.  If it's not active, I'm doing it wrong. Cheesy

Exactly how I see it; since I started exploring my beliefs, the main obstacle was becoming active with it. I believe what I believe, but I'm not really of a faith if these beliefs are lying dormant, or in hibernation, and aren't being allowed to flower and blossom like they should.
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« Reply #13: May 30, 2010, 02:46:18 pm »

So what do you think faith is?

Deliberate action to invest trust.

It's also, colloquially, a religion, but I try to avoid that usage because of its creedal implications.
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« Reply #14: May 30, 2010, 05:51:55 pm »

What about evidence to the contrary? For example, someone who continues to hold racist or sexist beliefs after interacting with people outside their race and sex group, for example. Or for something much more simple, someone who refuses to believe that yes, every single stove eye that you leave on until it's bright red will hurt if you touch it.

I view such people as lacking in understanding (and possibly in the capacity to understand). If the case is actually that they do believe that the new information is true, but refuse to incorporate it within their world view, I call it wilful ignorance.
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