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« Topic Start: June 08, 2010, 09:36:57 pm »

I've been checking out some books regarding Hedge Witchery and I see a lot of titles by Ann Moura.  The Chapters website seems to give it pretty good reviews, but I'm just wondering if anyone here has read her Green Witchcraft I, II, or III?  I'm really interested in herblore and folk magick, so she seemed like perhaps a good place for me to start.  If not, any suggestions for another author well-versed in this particular Path?  Thanks!
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« Reply #1: June 08, 2010, 09:39:14 pm »

I've been checking out some books regarding Hedge Witchery and I see a lot of titles by Ann Moura.  The Chapters website seems to give it pretty good reviews, but I'm just wondering if anyone here has read her Green Witchcraft I, II, or III?  I'm really interested in herblore and folk magick, so she seemed like perhaps a good place for me to start. 

Personally, I think her books are a waste of time, money, and trees. Her material is too ceremonial to be real folk magic and her biases against other religions are annoying.
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« Reply #2: June 08, 2010, 10:09:11 pm »

Personally, I think her books are a waste of time, money, and trees. Her material is too ceremonial to be real folk magic and her biases against other religions are annoying.
Really!  Can you give me an example of the biases you've mentioned? And also, if she isn't a good choice, are there any titles you could suggest?
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« Reply #3: June 08, 2010, 10:43:30 pm »

Actually, I was just looking at topics way back in this forum and I found a lot of people suggesting Ellen Dugan and Kate West.  Are they going to be good beginning books?  Or will they be more high-ritual, religion bashing?
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« Reply #4: June 08, 2010, 11:24:01 pm »

Actually, I was just looking at topics way back in this forum and I found a lot of people suggesting Ellen Dugan and Kate West.  Are they going to be good beginning books?  Or will they be more high-ritual, religion bashing?

I've started on Ellen Dugan's books, and I've enjoyed what I read so far. Natural Witchery was a good 101 book to Ms. Dugan's witchcraft, which while very clearly influenced by Wicca, focused more on the practice of magic and developing your own psychic abilities, without sounding ridiculous about it. I also appreciate her style of writing - friendly and informal without ever becoming demeaning. I've got Cottage Witchery and Garden Witchery on the way from Amazon.com, so I'll be able to tell you more about later.
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« Reply #5: June 09, 2010, 12:13:04 am »

 If not, any suggestions for another author well-versed in this particular Path?  Thanks!

I'm new/seeking like yourself and we seem to have some common interests---herb lore, folk magic, green/hedge witchery and the like. Right now I'm reading A Witch Alone by Marian Green and I really enjoy it. It's not an expressly hedgewitch/nature magic book, but  her love for nature is palpable and she insists that to be a skilled practitioner one must spend a good deal of time outdoors.

Her book is meant to be studied/digested over the course of a year, but I find just the reading alone inspiring.

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« Reply #6: June 09, 2010, 08:26:15 am »

Really!  Can you give me an example of the biases you've mentioned? And also, if she isn't a good choice, are there any titles you could suggest?

See these reviews on our web site: Green Witchcraft, Origins of Modern Witchcraft, Origins of Modern Witchcraft (a second review).

I'm not a expert on folk magick, but what you find at a site like http://www.luckymojo.com/ is far better than anything in Ann Moura's books.
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« Reply #7: June 09, 2010, 11:38:06 am »

A Witch Alone by Marian Green and I really enjoy it. It's not an expressly hedgewitch/nature magic book, but  her love for nature is palpable and she insists that to be a skilled practitioner one must spend a good deal of time outdoors.

Her book is meant to be studied/digested over the course of a year, but I find just the reading alone inspiring.

During my more witchy days I read this book too and liked it. I suspect if I read it now some of the 'history' might make me twitch slightly, but then IMO all claims about history in books on pagan religions need to be taken with a pinch of salt. I would happily recommend it to a newbie.

I had a Kate West book, the kitchen one. It was reasonably good...ish... some nice ideas and recipes, never really used it though. Again the history needed more salt but it wasn't too cringeworthy, if my memory is correct. I passed it on to a friend, which means I can't have felt it was too awful or the charity shop or bin would have got it.
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« Reply #8: June 17, 2010, 05:36:54 pm »


The rituals in Moura's GW books really is a little 'high' for my liking: long paragraphs in rituals, stage directions and altar setup that requires a six-seater dining table! Still, my ritual structure is a little Robert Cochrane, so maybe it's just different tastes. I often refer to her herbal correspondences - though I don't use them solely, as I don't know her sources. And I find some of her invocations to be nicely written, which helps distract my attention from the slightly less savoury writing: biases and the inevitable witchier-than-thou undercurrents.

I throw up a hand for Marian Green - A Witch Alone, Elements of Natural Magic, Gentle Arts of Aquarian Magic... There's little ritual and dogma, just a persuasive urging to get close to the land and experience base energy.
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« Reply #9: June 27, 2010, 09:19:14 pm »

I've been checking out some books regarding Hedge Witchery and I see a lot of titles by Ann Moura.  The Chapters website seems to give it pretty good reviews, but I'm just wondering if anyone here has read her Green Witchcraft I, II, or III?  I'm really interested in herblore and folk magick, so she seemed like perhaps a good place for me to start.  If not, any suggestions for another author well-versed in this particular Path?  Thanks!

I have Ann Moura's Grimoire for the Green Witch, which I bought mainly because it has such an attractive cover, and I become foolish when faced with a pretty package.   There are a few resources in it that I can make use of, but not much else, because the book mostly consists of formal ritual scripts, which is not something I would ever be interested in doing.  I very much encourage you, as someone else has, to look at the books by Marian Green: I have her A Witch Alone.  This is very earthy, common sense, good stuff that really resonates as coming from someone who's spent time with the Earth and the land.  I would also suggest Rae Beth's The Wiccan Way: Magical Spirituality for the Solitary Pagan.  She uses the term Hedge Witchcraft as well as Wildwood Mysticism to refer to what she is presenting, and again, her book echoes with the sturdy common (and sixth!) sense of someone who's spent time with the Earth. 
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« Reply #10: January 28, 2011, 07:15:08 pm »

Personally, I think her books are a waste of time, money, and trees. Her material is too ceremonial to be real folk magic and her biases against other religions are annoying.

Ha ha ha oh man wish I'd found this forum a few weeks ago. I'm halfway into the third book of the series, I've also got her grimoire and mansions of the moon. She does have clear bias and historical inaccuracy in the first portion of the first book, but I haven't come across too many books that don't tbh.

I dislike the massive amount of ceremonial/ritual work she includes for EVERYTHING but some of her imagery and such is interesting. She also writes well and it's an easy read. I don't especially see how or why I must take a half hour to an hour to create a circle every time I want to do anything or how I can implement most of what she advocates - ritually speaking, when I have a very small living area that I share with a scornful atheist lol. I can just imagine how some of those scenarios might end up ><.

Anyway, they aren't *awful* but I'll likely be re-selling them when I've read through them.
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« Reply #11: January 28, 2011, 08:18:17 pm »

Ha ha ha oh man wish I'd found this forum a few weeks ago. I'm halfway into the third book of the series, I've also got her grimoire and mansions of the moon. She does have clear bias and historical inaccuracy in the first portion of the first book, but I haven't come across too many books that don't tbh.

If you reallywant a heavy dose of both historical inaccuracy AND her anti-almost every-religion-not-hers biases, try her Origins of Modern Witchcraft. A truly awful book.
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« Reply #12: January 28, 2011, 08:20:32 pm »

If you reallywant a heavy dose of both historical inaccuracy AND her anti-almost every-religion-not-hers biases, try her Origins of Modern Witchcraft. A truly awful book.

Yeaaaaaaaaah I saw the write up for that on Amazon and *immediately* regretted getting her books. Someone that bigoted and ignorant is just...neugh.

There are some interesting aspects to her work, I enjoy her list of laws vs the more traditional Wiccan law of three etc but reading them requires a pound of salt at least. :/
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« Reply #13: January 28, 2011, 09:46:30 pm »

If you reallywant a heavy dose of both historical inaccuracy AND her anti-almost every-religion-not-hers biases, try her Origins of Modern Witchcraft. A truly awful book.

There is some informative data in her books, but most of it is just bigoted and High-Magick-y.
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