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« Reply #15: July 10, 2010, 10:45:33 pm »

Hi there... I will pray to abstractions... I don't like it... but I will...

Mostly I pray to actual things... you know... like a rock or an ocean... maybe the sky. I will pray to beetles in a moment.... but I don't mean symbols... I make prayer to things.


Can you please be clearer on what you mean when you differentiate between "to pray" and "to make prayer"?

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I'll pray to physical things, abstractions, symbols, animals, interesting objects... you name it..

Emphasis mine. You just said you would pray to symbols. And why do you draw the line at praying to humans? They're physical things. They have just as much worth as clouds and beetles.
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« Reply #16: July 10, 2010, 10:54:05 pm »

Can you please be clearer on what you mean when you differentiate between "to pray" and "to make prayer"?

Emphasis mine. You just said you would pray to symbols. And why do you draw the line at praying to humans? They're physical things. They have just as much worth as clouds and beetles.

Hiya Ellen

Thanks for hanging out this evening and posting back and forth. I really enjoy it.

I find the term "pray to" to be unacceptably normal... for one thing... the other thing is that it means to ask beseechingly, or as we say in the venacular, "to beg".... and I find begging to be an inappropriate way of addressing anything.

Heh... about praying to humans... I actually do it... but only at the point of orgasm.

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« Reply #17: July 10, 2010, 10:55:48 pm »

.... you know... assuming prayer to be a specialized form of communication
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« Reply #18: July 10, 2010, 10:56:49 pm »

I find the term "pray to" to be unacceptably normal... for one thing... the other thing is that it means to ask beseechingly, or as we say in the venacular, "to beg".... and I find begging to be an inappropriate way of addressing anything.

There's a difference between asking and begging. I don't beg my gods for anything. What then do you do when you "make" prayer?

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« Reply #19: July 10, 2010, 10:57:08 pm »

.... you know... assuming prayer to be a specialized form of communication

...is prayer not even communication at this point?
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« Reply #20: July 10, 2010, 11:01:47 pm »

...is prayer not even communication at this point?

Well prayer is a specialized form of communication. It's one of the few things that religions have in common. Some folks say it isn't prayer unless you're asking a god for something... but that's just their religious bias.

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« Reply #21: July 10, 2010, 11:03:59 pm »

Well prayer is a specialized form of communication. It's one of the few things that religions have in common. Some folks say it isn't prayer unless you're asking a god for something... but that's just their religious bias.



Ahh, that's what you meant. I thought your statement had been questioning that prayer was communication, but I see where you were coming from.

Some folks say a lot of things. There are plenty of people who pray for devotions, or thanksgiving, or just to keep in contact with their deity in addition to asking for blessings and such.
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« Reply #22: July 10, 2010, 11:11:14 pm »

I find the term "pray to" to be unacceptably normal... for one thing...

Huh? Most words are quite "normal"

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There are a number of types of prayer. Yes, petition (or begging as you want to call it) is one. Some other types are praise and thanks. Prayer is just a form of communication. And communication need not always be about asking for favors.
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« Reply #23: July 10, 2010, 11:30:10 pm »

.... you know... assuming prayer to be a specialized form of communication

Please make sure to quote, even if you are just adding a comment on your own post.  We have a limited staff, and quoting is very important for efficient board management.

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« Reply #24: July 10, 2010, 11:37:33 pm »

Please make sure to quote, even if you are just adding a comment on your own post.  We have a limited staff, and quoting is very important for efficient board management.

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« Reply #25: July 10, 2010, 11:54:05 pm »

Dang... tough crowd around here


This has nothing to do with being "tough."  We remind everyone, especially new people, about the importance of quoting.  We understand this is not standard on many boards and so many folks need reminders.  We are much busier than many boards and we have a very small volunteer staff.  If there is a problem happening in threads, we have to be able to find the source quickly.  Otherwise, the board simply could not function as it does.  If I was "tough," I would have issued a formal warning...which this was not.

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« Reply #26: July 11, 2010, 12:48:53 am »

Huh? Most words are quite "normal"

There are a number of types of prayer. Yes, petition (or begging as you want to call it) is one. Some other types are praise and thanks. Prayer is just a form of communication. And communication need not always be about asking for favors.

I'm trying to get myself in habits without becoming complacent, I usually (almost always remember to say a thank you prayer before bed) but I'd like to get in the habit in the morning and before meals too.  And maybe before work, usually if I remember it's an Oh My please help me get through the next 12 hours without throttling a paramedic, emt, nurse or really anyone lol  Cheesy
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