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« Topic Start: June 28, 2010, 09:52:06 pm »

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The FBI has arrested 10 people for allegedly serving for years as secret agents of Russia's intelligence service, the SVR, with the goal of penetrating U.S. government policymaking circles.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_doj_russia_arrests
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« Reply #1: June 29, 2010, 08:03:15 am »


Not a surprise. I'm sure we do the same thing in Russia.  The charges (failure to register as a foreign agent, money laundering) seem much calmer than they would have been during the cold war.
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« Reply #2: June 29, 2010, 08:32:24 am »

Not a surprise. I'm sure we do the same thing in Russia. 

I was just thinking the same thing. lol
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« Reply #3: June 29, 2010, 02:25:09 pm »

Not a surprise. I'm sure we do the same thing in Russia.  The charges (failure to register as a foreign agent, money laundering) seem much calmer than they would have been during the cold war.

I'd be more surprised if there were NOT foreign intelligence agents running around the States.

I mean .. that's what they do.
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« Reply #4: June 29, 2010, 02:43:59 pm »

I'd be more surprised if there were NOT foreign intelligence agents running around the States.

I mean .. that's what they do.

Ayup. No surprises on this end, either. We've all got our agents all over the planet. That's how things are done.
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« Reply #5: June 29, 2010, 04:30:08 pm »

Not a surprise. I'm sure we do the same thing in Russia.  The charges (failure to register as a foreign agent, money laundering) seem much calmer than they would have been during the cold war.

Not sure about it being tougher during the Cold War.

From some other info, what they did would be perfectly legal if they were US citizens. That's the price we pay for having an open society.
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« Reply #6: June 29, 2010, 05:22:38 pm »

From some other info, what they did would be perfectly legal if they were US citizens. That's the price we pay for having an open society.

Pretty much legal from what I can tell. You'd probably have to register as a foreign agent, but that's no big deal.

At least from the list of info they were after, most of it is probably publicly available here anyway. I guess they don't trust the public sources.
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« Reply #7: June 29, 2010, 05:41:02 pm »

Pretty much legal from what I can tell. You'd probably have to register as a foreign agent, but that's no big deal.

At least from the list of info they were after, most of it is probably publicly available here anyway. I guess they don't trust the public sources.

I heard semi-public. Not a matter of not trusting public sources, but of having to know the info was availiable to get it. Such as asking insiders at cocktail parties about the budget. Public info, but won't be released for general circulation for 6 months, and then it might not be detailed in the published budget. Definately not classified info, not even "No Foreign"

I suspect that if they had registered as a foreign agent from the former CCCP they would not have been invited to the parties.

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« Reply #8: June 29, 2010, 06:45:48 pm »


From what I heard on NPR, the surprise wasn't "They were spying on us?" so much as "Ten in contact with each other?  We didn't have TEN at a TIME back in my day."

And that was from both sides of the Iron Curtain.

Kinda weird, but I'm glad to know that the FBI is still functioning.

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« Reply #9: June 29, 2010, 09:36:20 pm »

I suspect that if they had registered as a foreign agent from the former CCCP they would not have been invited to the parties.

There is that.
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« Reply #10: July 07, 2010, 09:41:54 pm »



Now it looks like a spy swap deal is in the works.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100708/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_us_spying

If this happens, I have to wonder if the arrests weren't made with something like this in mind from the very beginning.
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