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« Reply #5: July 12, 2010, 05:15:30 pm »

That is along the lines of what he was trying to say.  He told me he was using chaos energy for pretty much everything, and at that time I did not know much about elemental energies, I just remember it gave me a weird prickly feeling.  Also, he said that only a few select people are able to use it.  I'm just trying to figure out if there is any truth in what he was saying, or if he was just someone who made up their own element that only he could use.
What Everfool said about everything arising from it makes sense to me - if I were fitting that into an elemental framework, it wouldn't be as "the other elements combined" (the term I've usually seen used for that is "spirit"), but as "the raw stuff from which elements form".

Are there people who use that undifferentiated "raw stuff"?  Yes; I have myself (it's not particularly useful, though, until you give it form/direction, at which point it's not undifferentiated raw stuff anymore).  Is it Chaos, or chaos energy, in a definitive way?  Not really; that's a term of convenience as far as I'm concerned - I have no way to know whether your acquaintance meant anything like the same thing I would if I used that terminology (which I might, but more likely would avoid using).

The bit about only a select few being able to use it... well, relatively few folks do use it, but that's as likely to be because they're working with different frameworks/systems, not because they're not Of The Select Few.  Sounds to me like he was just bragging about how Special he is.  I'm guessing he also made a big deal about how powerful it (and therefore he) was, too - which, see my parenthetical remark above about usefulness.

IOW, he wasn't just making stuff up, but he was definitely spinning it to make himself sound powerful and important.  And there's enough "spin" BS in there that I suspect he was mostly going by stuff he'd read, and possibly hadn't understood well, not by anything he'd actually worked with.


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