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« Topic Start: July 19, 2010, 02:40:28 pm »

OK, I hope I'm right in this folder.

Sunday I got a frame drum from the Ren Fair, we visited.
Now I'd really love to paint a motive on it, to make it more 'mine'.

I know this is done with Bodhran drums and my animal communication teacher painted horses on her shaman drum.

But before I start to just put color on it, I wanted to ask, if someone here has got experience with this? You know, the Do's and Don'ts - what kind of color (acylics?), what to take care of to not ruin the drum and so on.

The drum can not be tuned. The frame and the skin are tightly together.
The leather might be goat, don't know for sure tho'.

Thanks in advance. Smiley
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« Reply #1: July 19, 2010, 02:52:01 pm »

But before I start to just put color on it, I wanted to ask, if someone here has got experience with this? You know, the Do's and Don'ts - what kind of color (acylics?), what to take care of to not ruin the drum and so on.

I'm just pullin' this out of my rump roast, but I'm wondering about acrylic on animal skin.  As an animal who regularly gets acrylic on her skin, it's fairly easy to peel off.

Have you considered something like a stain?  I've seen henna used on hide drums to lovely effect.  Granted, it's not quite as colorful and you'll have to seal it with some sort of oil, but I find it just gorgeous.

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« Reply #2: July 19, 2010, 03:03:55 pm »

As an animal who regularly gets acrylic on her skin, it's fairly easy to peel off.

 Cheesy Yeah, I wondered about that too.

  I've seen henna used on hide drums to lovely effect.  Granted, it's not quite as colorful and you'll have to seal it with some sort of oil, but I find it just gorgeous.

Ohhh, this looks fantastic.
Thanks for the pic and the idea!
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Whatever you do, don't let it get soaked. It can warp your frame, crack it, and ruin the tone. The leather can shrink too. When you are applying stuff, use as little as possible, let it dry thoroughly, then add more. It may take longer but the drum won't get hurt.

As for colors..... Think of things that stain. Red wine, tobacco juice, walnut hulls..... etc etc. Maybe try soaking some coloring agents like turmeric in oil, draining and filtering the oil, and practicing on scrap leather? No matter what you try, practice on something you don't mind losing first. Preferably something close to your drum surface so you can see how it'll react.
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« Reply #4: July 20, 2010, 03:31:23 am »

OK, I hope I'm right in this folder.

Sunday I got a frame drum from the Ren Fair, we visited.
Now I'd really love to paint a motive on it, to make it more 'mine'.

I know this is done with Bodhran drums and my animal communication teacher painted horses on her shaman drum.

But before I start to just put color on it, I wanted to ask, if someone here has got experience with this? You know, the Do's and Don'ts - what kind of color (acylics?), what to take care of to not ruin the drum and so on.

The drum can not be tuned. The frame and the skin are tightly together.
The leather might be goat, don't know for sure tho'.

Thanks in advance. Smiley

My mom has a business where she paints furniture, and she told me that acrylics are only good on wood, plaster, and thick fabric, like canvas.  I don't suggest using it on the actual skin cause that probably would just peel off.  I was thinking of painting my viola, but oil paints, I was warned, can ruin the sound.   (For that matter acrylic can too, but it is not as much of a risk).  As others have suggested, I would think a dye or ink would be your best option.
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« Reply #5: July 20, 2010, 04:01:44 am »

OK, I hope I'm right in this folder.

Sunday I got a frame drum from the Ren Fair, we visited.
Now I'd really love to paint a motive on it, to make it more 'mine'.

I know this is done with Bodhran drums and my animal communication teacher painted horses on her shaman drum.

But before I start to just put color on it, I wanted to ask, if someone here has got experience with this? You know, the Do's and Don'ts - what kind of color (acylics?), what to take care of to not ruin the drum and so on.

The drum can not be tuned. The frame and the skin are tightly together.
The leather might be goat, don't know for sure tho'.

Thanks in advance. Smiley

Eco-Flo makes a special, extra flexible acrylic paint designed for use on leather. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it's available outside of the United States, as only Tandy Leather Company seems to carry it. But there may be another company that produces something similar in Europe.

Here's a link to the paints:
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/2650-02.aspx?feature=Product_10&kw=paint
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« Reply #6: July 20, 2010, 08:48:35 am »

Whatever you do, don't let it get soaked. It can warp your frame, crack it, and ruin the tone. The leather can shrink too. When you are applying stuff, use as little as possible, let it dry thoroughly, then add more. It may take longer but the drum won't get hurt.

Yes, that was my concern too.
It surely would damage the hide to soak it.

The hide goes around the whole frame, so I guess I could try out Henna or other stain at the frame without something bad happening.

To all: Thank you all for your input Smiley
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