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« Topic Start: August 09, 2010, 07:05:51 pm »

My cat, Pixie, has been my faithful companion for over 8 years now.  She used to always invite herself into rituals and sit there while I communed with my Patrons.  I have noticed, however, in the past three years or so she has been pulling away from me in that respect.  She basically snubs her nose whenever I did rituals.  Is this a natural thing?  I have been thinking about traveling down another path, so is this her way of telling me that it is the right thing to do? 
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« Reply #1: August 09, 2010, 10:54:20 pm »

My cat, Pixie, has been my faithful companion for over 8 years now.  She used to always invite herself into rituals and sit there while I communed with my Patrons.  I have noticed, however, in the past three years or so she has been pulling away from me in that respect.  She basically snubs her nose whenever I did rituals.  Is this a natural thing?  I have been thinking about traveling down another path, so is this her way of telling me that it is the right thing to do? 

Or she could just be bored.  Some days my kitties love to sit in on ritual (and participate) other times they are no where to be found. 
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« Reply #2: August 09, 2010, 11:56:03 pm »

Or she could just be bored.  Some days my kitties love to sit in on ritual (and participate) other times they are no where to be found. 

That could be it at that.  She is getting up there in years.  Maybe her interest has simply waned.
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« Reply #3: August 10, 2010, 12:49:24 pm »

My cat, Pixie, has been my faithful companion for over 8 years now.  She used to always invite herself into rituals and sit there while I communed with my Patrons.  I have noticed, however, in the past three years or so she has been pulling away from me in that respect.  She basically snubs her nose whenever I did rituals.  Is this a natural thing?  I have been thinking about traveling down another path, so is this her way of telling me that it is the right thing to do? 

Did you used to have some sort or food offering or incense burning and you don't now?

I say that because I hold a pretty unpopular opinion about the whole familiar thing. Pretty much my take is cats/dogs have a whole lot less interest in what the person is doing than the fact there's food involved or smoke from incense.
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« Reply #4: August 10, 2010, 03:25:27 pm »

I say that because I hold a pretty unpopular opinion about the whole familiar thing. Pretty much my take is cats/dogs have a whole lot less interest in what the person is doing than the fact there's food involved or smoke from incense.

I second this.
Our cats and dogs are pets.
One can have a unique and close connection to their pets, soul communication and friendship beyond the rainbow bridge. But that does not make them familiars. It makes them family. Wink

A familiar is an animal shaped spirit. There's the biggest difference for me.
This means it looks like a dog or a cat, but it is something else.
Which is creepy in my opinion (and which I came across once and I'm still spooked out by the experience. Believe me, you wouldn't want to have that at home.)
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« Reply #5: August 10, 2010, 03:34:51 pm »

Did you used to have some sort or food offering or incense burning and you don't now?

I say that because I hold a pretty unpopular opinion about the whole familiar thing. Pretty much my take is cats/dogs have a whole lot less interest in what the person is doing than the fact there's food involved or smoke from incense.

No, but she does love candles. 
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« Reply #6: August 10, 2010, 03:49:31 pm »

No, but she does love candles. 

So you don't use candles now? Or did you change the type of candles? Are your candles scented and did that changed (intensity of the odor, etc).

There are just a whole lot of variables that can account for it, and I think looking for a more mundane answer is probably the best bet.
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« Reply #7: August 10, 2010, 04:46:28 pm »

I say that because I hold a pretty unpopular opinion about the whole familiar thing. Pretty much my take is cats/dogs have a whole lot less interest in what the person is doing than the fact there's food involved or smoke from incense.

I remember doing a dedication ritual when I was 18, on the beach. My dog and mom were hanging out, and both gave me a lot of space during the ritual...until I got to the cakes and ale part. Then my dog comes into the circle with this eager look on her face, and I could just hear her saying, "Oh, hey, watcha doing there? Can I help?" I gave her a cookie, she wagged her tail, and left.

My current cat has a single-minded passion to destroy my altar. If she's a familiar, she's one of the evil ones they talk about in the Malleus Maleficarum.*


*Disclaimer: I haven't actually read the thing yet; I'm just assuming.
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« Reply #8: August 10, 2010, 06:04:10 pm »

I remember doing a dedication ritual when I was 18, on the beach. My dog and mom were hanging out, and both gave me a lot of space during the ritual...until I got to the cakes and ale part. Then my dog comes into the circle with this eager look on her face, and I could just hear her saying, "Oh, hey, watcha doing there? Can I help?" I gave her a cookie, she wagged her tail, and left.

My current cat has a single-minded passion to destroy my altar. If she's a familiar, she's one of the evil ones they talk about in the Malleus Maleficarum.*


*Disclaimer: I haven't actually read the thing yet; I'm just assuming.

Luckily enough for me, my cat knows enough to stay away from my altar when I have it set up in an area she can get at it.  She did try once, and since that didn't go over well with me <i>at all</i> she never fooled with it again. 

I don't recall using different candles, I tend to get my votives from Yankee Candle, and usually in the same scents.  I have been moving her around a lot lately, and I don't think she appreciates that in the least.  She is very timid and will rarely be around anyone else besides me.  My friends jokingly call her "the ghost cat" because most of them  have  never actually <i>seen</i> her.  I was doing ritual in a more public setting, so that might have something to do with it.  Funny, I didn't even think of that until now.
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« Reply #9: August 10, 2010, 07:04:52 pm »

I remember doing a dedication ritual when I was 18, on the beach. My dog and mom were hanging out, and both gave me a lot of space during the ritual...until I got to the cakes and ale part. Then my dog comes into the circle with this eager look on her face, and I could just hear her saying, "Oh, hey, watcha doing there? Can I help?" I gave her a cookie, she wagged her tail, and left.

My current cat has a single-minded passion to destroy my altar. If she's a familiar, she's one of the evil ones they talk about in the Malleus Maleficarum.*


*Disclaimer: I haven't actually read the thing yet; I'm just assuming.

I had a cat that was intensely interested in any ritual I was doing. I seriously wanted to take that as some sort of sign. Then one night I moved the incense to the other side of the room. Amazing. Her attention followed it. LOL

Your dog also probably knew it could cage a treat. Smiley
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« Reply #10: August 10, 2010, 09:38:16 pm »

Your dog also probably knew it could cage a treat. Smiley

Oh yeah. We called her "Blue the Mooch-Pooch." She was super-fat because she got people to give her treats all the time. (Also, every time we tried to put her on a diet, she'd just go and kill a chicken.)

Luckily enough for me, my cat knows enough to stay away from my altar when I have it set up in an area she can get at it.  She did try once, and since that didn't go over well with me <i>at all</i> she never fooled with it again. 

You are lucky. You have a cat who listens to discipline.

Mine knows very well that she's doing something that I don't like, and that she'll get punished for, but then she does it anyway. This is after following a friend's advice and putting orange oil all around the altar and on my sacred stuff, because cats apparently hate the taste and smell of citrus (and she does, I can tell). She's still hell-bent: must. destroy. mommy's. things!

I've ended up putting most of my altar stuff into a box. Seemed easier than fighting a tidal wave of destruction.
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Mine knows very well that she's doing something that I don't like, and that she'll get punished for, but then she does it anyway. This is after following a friend's advice and putting orange oil all around the altar and on my sacred stuff, because cats apparently hate the taste and smell of citrus (and she does, I can tell). She's still hell-bent: must. destroy. mommy's. things!


My little cat is the same way, she plays with literally everything (even stole my knitting needles).  One day my boyfriend says exasperated, "Does this cat have no sense of personal property?"  I looked at him and replied, "Of course she does: Everything is hers".
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« Reply #12: August 10, 2010, 11:39:59 pm »

My little cat is the same way, she plays with literally everything (even stole my knitting needles).  One day my boyfriend says exasperated, "Does this cat have no sense of personal property?"  I looked at him and replied, "Of course she does: Everything is hers".

 Cheesy Yep, sounds like my Charli.

Every day before I leave the house I have to do a hunt for my shoes because she's scampered off with them. (Only my flip-flops, thankfully. She's not strong enough to drag off my steel-toed boots...yet.)
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« Reply #13: August 11, 2010, 05:51:13 am »

Cheesy Yep, sounds like my Charli.

Every day before I leave the house I have to do a hunt for my shoes because she's scampered off with them. (Only my flip-flops, thankfully. She's not strong enough to drag off my steel-toed boots...yet.)

My same mischievous kitty has started dragging our winter boots around, and started using my roommates $200 leather ones as a scratching post.
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« Reply #14: August 11, 2010, 06:27:02 am »

(even stole my knitting needles). 

At least she only steals your stuff.  I was moving out of an apartment once and when I moved the fridge to clean behind it I found a cache of hair ties, make-up sponges, Christmas ornaments, condoms, and gum.  It turned out my cat had been sneaking into my neighbours (my friend and heart-daughter) apartment and bringing home everything she could carry.

The condoms and gum came from inside Chell's dresser drawer - Tucker used to get in there somehow and bite the packages until she found one she wanted to bring home.  Her (Chell's) daughter has always referred to that cat as her 'real' mom -  Chell would always throw out any package with bite marks, of course, but she figures she must have missed one.  Cheesy

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