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« Topic Start: August 11, 2010, 10:39:31 am »

I would like to think I could pass them down to my kids, but given their current personalities I'm going to say that wouldn't be something I could do.  They would end up given away to friends as trinkets and otherwise used as toys, eventually destroyed and or lost.

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While they both attempt an elementary understanding, both boys lack the discipline to care for the items properly, and the Roo is still too young to be able to get a good feel of if she would or not.  Out of the three she seems she might.


If not, I'm not sure what I would want done with them.
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« Reply #1: August 11, 2010, 11:15:49 am »


::shrug::  The only "sacred artifacts" I'd say I have are jewelry.  If something happened to me tomorrow, I'd want my daughter to have them when she's old enough.  She probably wouldn't treat them as sacred objects.  That's fine with me.  I use them for the purpose of honoring my patron, but I don't consider them to have any inherent sacredness; once they've passed out of the context of my own worship, they're just amber and silver again.  I hope she'd wear them (or at least keep them around) in memory of me, but that's about it.
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« Reply #2: August 11, 2010, 11:21:52 am »


I've been thinking of starting (within the next twenty years, heh) a Pagan college students' group with local chapters at different schools, much like Hillel or Intervarsity Christian Fellowship. Some network for Pagan students to use in lieu of starting their own group completely from scratch. So I'd like all my Pagan stuff to go to that hypothetical organization in the future. Cheesy Barring that, probably my local ADF grove.
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« Reply #3: August 11, 2010, 04:15:43 pm »

I'm not sure what I would want done with them.


My mother-in-law just died.  My sister-in-law (husband's sister) and I were her only daughters.  She and I connected on a very spiritual level over the time that I knew her, and was the mother that I had the relationship I'd always wished I had with my own mother.  I never thought I'd actually receive any of her "sacred" things, but my sister-in-law gave me mom's tarot cards, and my father-in-law gave me mom's necklace (University of Michigan- to her it WAS sacred) and the first ring that he ever bought her.  I think that if you have children that love you, your items will be sacred to them because they were yours and they know they were important to you.  They may not use them in the same way, or revere them in the same way, but if they love you, they will be sacred none-the-less.

My things will go to my husband if he survives me, and to my children if not.  My things are just things.  The meanings they assign to them will be what make them special or not.
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« Reply #4: August 11, 2010, 05:09:51 pm »



If not, I'm not sure what I would want done with them.

If I have kids, and they have an interest in it, I will give my stuff to them.  My book collection I would not mind being donated, but my Books of Shadows, if my children are not going to have the right maturity for it, I would want it burned.
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« Reply #5: August 11, 2010, 07:53:47 pm »


I think that if you have children that love you, your items will be sacred to them because they were yours and they know they were important to you.  They may not use them in the same way, or revere them in the same way, but if they love you, they will be sacred none-the-less.

Most of my sacred objects are things that have an inherent spiritual value.  Eg.  A set of Elk Antlers from Alaska given to me by a gal from Australia visiting the US as well as some stones from Egypt and a brown snakes top vertebrate.  a vultures wing feathers and egg shells and skull, Hawk feathers, a full turkey fan and Heron feathers, a set of hawk claws, a fox tail; mockingbird, dove, robin, finch and cowbird egg shells, etc etc. ad nauseum.

Long story short, bits of spirit work.  A lifetime of learning and looking. 

Without the intensive time to teach them why these are more significant than just a bunch of specimen jars they would become just that.  Disposable.  Donate-able.  Stuff a new wife would toss out.  To be cliche, they are the medicine bundles of my family tradition built through our moves back and forth across the US.  Stones, bones, insect bits, husk dolls, beadwork... 

They're more than just me, so to give them the background they would need to see it as more than moms dumb stuff means they would really have to have a calling to learn.  Otherwise, I guess like Nimue mentioned, burning would be the other alternative - although it would be a crying shame to see it go, since not so many sacred collections are being built.

I have hope that my youngest will grow to take them on, but if not it would bum me out.
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And games are just another way of life
And I'm gonna tell my son to be a prophet of mistakes
Because for every truth there are half a million lies
And I'm gonna lock my son up in a tower
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« Reply #6: August 18, 2010, 10:58:41 am »


If not, I'm not sure what I would want done with them.

I would probably pass some of them along to others, especially most of the jewelry because I find that even if people do not use them to worship they usually cherish things given to them by people of the past.  But some of my things that I use on an everyday or ceremonial basis (mostly things with no meaning to others) I want to be buried with me.  I cannot really justify why I want that, I just know that I do.

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« Reply #7: August 18, 2010, 11:07:02 am »

I have hope that my youngest will grow to take them on, but if not it would bum me out.

It might make the items more accessible to the next generation if you carefully document all the items in writing, with detailed explanations of what they are and their significance.

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« Reply #8: August 19, 2010, 11:45:04 am »

It might make the items more accessible to the next generation if you carefully document all the items in writing, with detailed explanations of what they are and their significance.

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That's a thought.  I may end up doing that. 
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« Reply #9: August 22, 2010, 12:51:22 pm »

I would like to think I could pass them down to my kids, but given their current personalities I'm going to say that wouldn't be something I could do.  They would end up given away to friends as trinkets and otherwise used as toys, eventually destroyed and or lost.

'mom's weird animal and rock bits'

While they both attempt an elementary understanding, both boys lack the discipline to care for the items properly, and the Roo is still too young to be able to get a good feel of if she would or not.  Out of the three she seems she might.


If not, I'm not sure what I would want done with them.

I've always thought it would be rather nice to be buried with them, including my grimoire (if I ever get around to condensing them into one book).
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« Reply #10: August 22, 2010, 04:56:44 pm »

I would like to think I could pass them down to my kids, but given their current personalities I'm going to say that wouldn't be something I could do. 

I don't have any kids.

My will makes my HPS the executor of the will.  She has private instructions re certain items and my BOS.; in return, she has dibs on the library.  The rest of my books are donated to the local public library after my family and friends, in named order, get their choices.

I'm still debating who gets my house.  My brother's children aren't interested, as far as I know:  they are city kids.  I'm torn between donating it to the Boy Scouts or the Nature Conservancy or Heifer International.

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« Reply #11: August 29, 2010, 05:23:54 pm »

I would like to think I could pass them down to my kids, but given their current personalities I'm going to say that wouldn't be something I could do.  They would end up given away to friends as trinkets and otherwise used as toys, eventually destroyed and or lost.

'mom's weird animal and rock bits'

While they both attempt an elementary understanding, both boys lack the discipline to care for the items properly, and the Roo is still too young to be able to get a good feel of if she would or not.  Out of the three she seems she might.


If not, I'm not sure what I would want done with them.

I think my youngest son might do well with them. He steals all those type of things I find and claims them as his own anyway. My youngest daughter is too young to tell yet, but the teens just roll their eyes at all my beliefs - probably cause they are teens LOL. Beyond that I don't really know... I know I would like my journal of learning to be kept somewhere where someone can get some use and/or insight from it.
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« Reply #12: August 29, 2010, 08:16:23 pm »

If I have kids, and they have an interest in it, I will give my stuff to them.  My book collection I would not mind being donated, but my Books of Shadows, if my children are not going to have the right maturity for it, I would want it burned.

Consider what they'll think 20 or so years later when they are trying to reconstruct the material you had destroyed when they were immature tweens. 

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« Reply #13: October 20, 2010, 02:41:44 am »

> I would like to think I could pass them down to my kids, but given their current personalities I'm going to say that wouldn't be something I could do. 

I would like certain items cremated with me ( I don't want to be buried, I'd rather be scattered to the wind )... I am proudly pagan & that won't stop with death. Other items... if I have kids on day it would depend on their personalities. I suppose the items I value the most I"d want given to loved ones who'd appreciate them, the rest I'd like sold off & the $$ given to loved ones as well... for me spirituality doesn't reside in physical items, it lives in the heart. And this would b the final thing I could do to take care of those precious to me.

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« Reply #14: October 24, 2010, 06:25:59 pm »

I would like to think I could pass them down to my kids, but given their current personalities I'm going to say that wouldn't be something I could do.  They would end up given away to friends as trinkets and otherwise used as toys, eventually destroyed and or lost.

'mom's weird animal and rock bits'

While they both attempt an elementary understanding, both boys lack the discipline to care for the items properly, and the Roo is still too young to be able to get a good feel of if she would or not.  Out of the three she seems she might.


If not, I'm not sure what I would want done with them.

If I went first they would go to my SO.  We do not have children and do not intend to, so that's out.  Right now I would likely donate my library (spiritual and otherwise) whole cloth to whichever library I was currently patronizing.  As for my tools, I'm hoping to get really old, and I think that if I keep accumulating things at the rate I do now I will need to start slowly giving things away to people who seem like a good fit or else I will be buried in a giant mound of tools...
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