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« Reply #9: December 12, 2010, 10:00:21 am »

What exactly do you mean by "sophisticated consciousness"?

I'd also like to point out that not everyone believes in "ultimate truth" - I certainly don't - or that magic is used for this search. (My beliefs on the matter are that is there is an ultimate truth, I would have to sacrifice my current human scope and limitations to understand it, and quite frankly I'm not willing to make that sacrifice for anything.)

What do you mean by magic becoming illusory?
Good questions... it's all subjective language I guess. I didn't mean any of these terms in any authoritative way. As a mystic, I just believe there's something unknowable that we can't claim knowledge of yet. By ultimate, I just meant that whatever is out there is beyond what we can comprehend currently (not that we must do anything, or submit to any authority, or sacrifice... I'm thinking adventure of the quest, not an unavoidable destination that takes away our free will)...

I didn't mean it in any religious sense, but only in the mystical sense of the quest. I do believe a quest for something yet undiscovered is really important for my life in general (and probably for many people, but by no means all). For this reason, I don't subscribe to (but this is totally personal) authoritative truth and believe no one has a lock on truth, including seekers, gurus, magicians, mystics, scientists, or atheists. By sophisticated consciousness I meant only that our perceptions of what is real is as sophisticated as it will be (we always grow, life's a journey... I know cliche, but you know what I mean). I love the idea that we're growing and have a lot to learn, and by definition this means we -- and most of the universe -- is not as sophisticated as we think we are and we will grow and never stop growing (personal optimistic belief). It's humbling, but I think it's good to be humble before the wonder of this amazing Universe.

I have total faith in my Goddess and my beliefs, yet I never stop re-interpreting my understanding of my own faith and perception of my Goddess. And I grow closer and closer to Her every day as I learn more about Her "ultimate" truth. Yet, in this lifetime, I don't believe I'll come even close. But the quest is still the thing for me.

I also didn't mean to say magic is used for the search for ultimate truth. Magic is not contained within a single mission (in fact, I kind of view magic, in small part, as a lens or filter through which we perceive our own forms or reality, which is why I believe all paths are valid and valuable). I just meant to honor the thrill and joy of life in the pursuit of what we don't know, which is why science and magic are both rather thrilling adventures. By the way, I also don't mean to imply magic is dependent on belief or gods, or has only one mission... magic is vast and wondrous and encompassing nearly every aspect of life and living and doesn't require beliefs.

Sometimes I express myself poorly, or get lazy on typing...

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