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« Topic Start: September 09, 2010, 06:44:12 pm »

I have been thinking about this for a few days now and would love to get an opinion for other people.

If you leave flowers on your alter to your deities, do you always leave real flowers or do you sometimes leave fake ones? What if you don't have the money or means to always get real, fresh flowers? Is there ever a time when fake flowers are appropriate to leave for your deities?

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« Reply #1: September 09, 2010, 06:59:56 pm »

I have been thinking about this for a few days now and would love to get an opinion for other people.

If you leave flowers on your alter to your deities, do you always leave real flowers or do you sometimes leave fake ones? What if you don't have the money or means to always get real, fresh flowers? Is there ever a time when fake flowers are appropriate to leave for your deities?

Thanks for all your input! Grin

Fresher is better, but the ancient Kemetics had no qualms with leaving representations of things (such as pictures of food in tombs) when things that could expire were not a practical option.
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« Reply #2: September 09, 2010, 07:22:55 pm »

Fresher is better, but the ancient Kemetics had no qualms with leaving representations of things (such as pictures of food in tombs) when things that could expire were not a practical option.

When I'm not able to get fresh flowers, I put wooden tulips in the vase on my shrine.  They're hand-made and painted and seem to be a nice substitute.
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« Reply #3: September 09, 2010, 07:34:28 pm »

If you leave flowers on your alter to your deities, do you always leave real flowers or do you sometimes leave fake ones? What if you don't have the money or means to always get real, fresh flowers? Is there ever a time when fake flowers are appropriate to leave for your deities?

I don't have an issue with representations of things in place of "real" things, as that's well-attested historically, but I would be careful about the quality of those representations.

The standard plastic-vinyl fake flowers I wouldn't do, because I hate them and can't abide the perceived quality issues.  veggiewolf's wooden tulips sound great, though.  Some nice cloth or other representations would be okay too, I just hate plastic plants. Wink
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« Reply #4: September 09, 2010, 09:14:37 pm »

If you leave flowers on your alter to your deities, do you always leave real flowers or do you sometimes leave fake ones? What if you don't have the money or means to always get real, fresh flowers? Is there ever a time when fake flowers are appropriate to leave for your deities?

While a nice bouquet would be traditional, I tend to stick with the representations, and it works out very nicely. My main shrine area employs several lotus candle holders in many different colors. The effect is very serene.
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« Reply #5: September 13, 2010, 12:39:58 pm »

I have been thinking about this for a few days now and would love to get an opinion for other people.

If you leave flowers on your alter to your deities, do you always leave real flowers or do you sometimes leave fake ones? What if you don't have the money or means to always get real, fresh flowers? Is there ever a time when fake flowers are appropriate to leave for your deities?

Thanks for all your input! Grin

I myself have been told by Aset that she wants fresh flowers *always* on her shrine. So I have to buy them weekly, and as soon as any start to droop or die, I've been instructed to remove them. She's pretty laid back about everything but her flowers. So in that case, I always have to have live ones. If I suddenly ran into financial issues where she felt I couldn't afford them, she'd probably want nice (being the key word) fake flowers, or none at all. I personally don't like fake flowers, so I'd almost go abrstract- flowers made of other materials other than silk, or using a 2D representation. However, if the god(dess) is cool with it, I don't see a problem.

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« Reply #6: September 13, 2010, 01:27:55 pm »

I myself have been told by Aset that she wants fresh flowers *always* on her shrine. So I have to buy them weekly, and as soon as any start to droop or die, I've been instructed to remove them. She's pretty laid back about everything but her flowers. So in that case, I always have to have live ones. If I suddenly ran into financial issues where she felt I couldn't afford them, she'd probably want nice (being the key word) fake flowers, or none at all. I personally don't like fake flowers, so I'd almost go abrstract- flowers made of other materials other than silk, or using a 2D representation. However, if the god(dess) is cool with it, I don't see a problem.

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Do they have to be CUT flowers?  How about a flowering plant?
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« Reply #7: September 13, 2010, 02:57:52 pm »

Do they have to be CUT flowers?  How about a flowering plant?

I have considered this, but it's really hard to keep things living in my house. Due to the lack of light (things are kept dark due to the heat) it's a pain to keep things alive. I've gone through quite a few plants lately.. the only things still hanging on are my orchids, and they only flower a small fraction out of the year. That, and a sweet potato that is taking over the kitchen island (the only place in the house that receives daily light). So in the long run it'd be cheaper to have a flowering plant, but for the current time, it's not practical- I'd probably spend more money buying new ones after I had killed it DX

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« Reply #8: September 13, 2010, 05:38:29 pm »

I have been thinking about this for a few days now and would love to get an opinion for other people.

If you leave flowers on your alter to your deities, do you always leave real flowers or do you sometimes leave fake ones? What if you don't have the money or means to always get real, fresh flowers? Is there ever a time when fake flowers are appropriate to leave for your deities?

Thanks for all your input! Grin

I have left living items only on my altar. This is mostly due to a respect issue. I have nothing against fake plants--I have numerous ones throughout my house--however, I don't think that Sekhmet would enjoy fake flowers. As it is, her flower contributions are considerably limited. I've given her dead grass and a giant, orange flower that I secreted from a neighbor's bush in the dead of the night.

When Hwt-Hrw finally shows up, I have no idea how she'll feel about it. I think she would just enjoy the thought behind the flowers as opposed to the need to have real ones.
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« Reply #9: September 14, 2010, 08:37:56 pm »

I have considered this, but it's really hard to keep things living in my house. Due to the lack of light (things are kept dark due to the heat) it's a pain to keep things alive. I've gone through quite a few plants lately.. the only things still hanging on are my orchids, and they only flower a small fraction out of the year. That, and a sweet potato that is taking over the kitchen island (the only place in the house that receives daily light). So in the long run it'd be cheaper to have a flowering plant, but for the current time, it's not practical- I'd probably spend more money buying new ones after I had killed it DX

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How about an AeroGarden?  You can keep flowers growing in there for months and it has its own light source?  I have two, and I grow herbs in them all year round.
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« Reply #10: September 15, 2010, 11:29:10 am »

How about an AeroGarden?  You can keep flowers growing in there for months and it has its own light source?  I have two, and I grow herbs in them all year round.

I so want one of these, so that I can grow veggies and the like XD I plan on getting one in the future.

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« Reply #11: September 21, 2010, 07:44:09 am »


I've been informed that cut flowers are a must on the shrine, so I buy a fresh bouquet weekly or whenever needed. I've found that I'm particularly fond of multi-colored carnations as they're very pretty, keep a long time and are not too expensive.
When I went on holiday, I didn't want to leave a bunch of flowers wilting on the shrine though, so I wondered if a potted plant would do, but was decidedly led to buy a specific bouquet of flowers that could be dried instead. By the time I left, the flowers had dried and prettied up the shrine perfectly.
It works for me.
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« Reply #12: September 21, 2010, 09:57:06 am »

I've been informed that cut flowers are a must on the shrine, so I buy a fresh bouquet weekly or whenever needed. I've found that I'm particularly fond of multi-colored carnations as they're very pretty, keep a long time and are not too expensive.
When I went on holiday, I didn't want to leave a bunch of flowers wilting on the shrine though, so I wondered if a potted plant would do, but was decidedly led to buy a specific bouquet of flowers that could be dried instead. By the time I left, the flowers had dried and prettied up the shrine perfectly.
It works for me.

Wouldn't the need for the flowers be dependent upon netjer's desire?
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« Reply #13: September 21, 2010, 10:57:19 am »

Wouldn't the need for the flowers be dependent upon netjer's desire?

I'd think so, although I'm noticing more and more that the netjer request different things from different people.  F'ex, they may ask for live flowers from one person, and be satisfied with replicas from another.

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« Reply #14: September 21, 2010, 11:16:42 am »

Wouldn't the need for the flowers be dependent upon netjer's desire?
Oh yes, when I said 'informed' I meant by informed by Netjer in UPG. Ever since Wep Ronpet, when I started more serious worship, Netjer has asked for flowers and I comply. I worship Nut, Mut and Bes primaraly and it's mostly Nut and Mut who ask for flowers, Bes is more laid back.

I was planning to leave the shrine bare for the time I went on holiday or perhaps buy a potted flowering plant, but I was told by Netjer to buy a specific bouquet. When I was putting it on the shrine, I realised the flowers could be dried easily and remain just as beautiful which got me a bit of a "Now, you get it." in response.

I don't know why They don't want a potted plant but I've been told No several times now.
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