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« Topic Start: June 04, 2007, 07:23:21 am »

The local metropolis (New Hope, pop. 2,250) finally started a farmer's market.  I'm buying free-range eggs and pasture-raised meat there.  The meats are very expensive.

At the grocery I buy the store brand FDA certified organic items I can't get at the farmer's market.  I like that certification, though I now wonder if I'm putting too much faith in our lovely government.

If you picked up something that was labeled 'organic' without the FDA seal, would you be skeptical?

If you picked up something labeled 'all-natural,' would you believe it? (Given that 'all-natural' has no legal meaning; sewage is 'all-natural.')

My inclination is to support the local farmers as much as I can, though it's rough on the wallet.

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« Reply #1: June 04, 2007, 09:02:12 am »

If you picked up something that was labeled 'organic' without the FDA seal, would you be skeptical?

Hmmm.  I wouldn't immediately suspect the local Farmer's Market crowd of labelling something "organic" that was grown using all sorts of nasty chemical junk.  However, I do keep in mind when shopping there the fact that "organic" doesn't necessarily tell me anything unless I know exactly what it means, and without some standard to refer to, I don't know what it means.  The great thing about the Farmer's Market, though, is that the people who raised the food are right there.  If you have questions about what "organic" means as applied to their food, you can just ask them.  Smiley  (Of course, at some point this does mean you've got to trust that people are telling you the truth.)

I would also note, though, that since the stuff at the Farmer's Market not only supports local farmers but also tends (IMHO) to taste better whether it's organic or not...  Unless I have reason to believe that a particular farmer's practices are really bad (which I generally don't), I tend to not mind much if their idea of "organic" differs slightly from mine.

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If you picked up something labeled 'all-natural,' would you believe it? (Given that 'all-natural' has no legal meaning; sewage is 'all-natural.')

I believe it's all-natural.  I don't believe that means anything.  Cheesy  Just because it's natural doesn't mean I want it in my body, and I try to keep that in mind when buying food.

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My inclination is to support the local farmers as much as I can, though it's rough on the wallet.

It can be, yeah.  Sad  Produce I find isn't so bad if you get the right stuff and get it in-season.  Meats, though, as you mentioned, can be pretty expensive.  But it really does taste better, and Hubby and I feel like it's worth it when we can afford it...  So we use less meat and supplement it when we have to (which is more than I'd like) with less-expensive megamart meat.  It's actually been really interesting for us, learning to cook around what's in-season and all that.  Smiley
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« Reply #2: June 04, 2007, 11:44:58 am »

Hmmm.  I wouldn't immediately suspect the local Farmer's Market crowd of labelling something "organic" that was grown using all sorts of nasty chemical junk.  However, I do keep in mind when shopping there the fact that "organic" doesn't necessarily tell me anything unless I know exactly what it means, and without some standard to refer to, I don't know what it means.  The great thing about the Farmer's Market, though, is that the people who raised the food are right there.  If you have questions about what "organic" means as applied to their food, you can just ask them.  Smiley  (Of course, at some point this does mean you've got to trust that people are telling you the truth.)

I would also note, though, that since the stuff at the Farmer's Market not only supports local farmers but also tends (IMHO) to taste better whether it's organic or not...  Unless I have reason to believe that a particular farmer's practices are really bad (which I generally don't), I tend to not mind much if their idea of "organic" differs slightly from mine.

One way is to see who offers a CSA.Those people tend to have good organic practices, since most of them encourage the members to come help on the farm.  Sometimes the difference is just how long they've had that field, because you can't be certified organic in most places until the field has been organic for a certain period of time..

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« Reply #3: June 04, 2007, 12:42:42 pm »

One way is to see who offers a CSA.Those people tend to have good organic practices, since most of them encourage the members to come help on the farm.  Sometimes the difference is just how long they've had that field, because you can't be certified organic in most places until the field has been organic for a certain period of time..

I totally forgot about CSA. Smiley  Thank you Mandrina!  *kiss*

One of the tents at the local market has a sign that reads "So-n-so Farm has been organic for thirty years."  Which is really cool.  Unfortunately, all they sell are herb and spice plants, which I don't have room or knowledge for right now.

The guys I buy my salad and eggs from are a hippy and his neo-hippy son.  It's a leaf and sprout salad, sold in small containers ("bachelor-sized") so I'm not throwing any out once it goes bad.  Add in some baby carrots, diced red wine/derby cheese, and light ranch dressing, and I'm a happy camper.  In fact, I'm munching on eggzactly that right now. Wink

Our farm inherited about fifty pounds of processed venison from some hunters that are no longer allowed on the property.  So I'm going to live on that for the summer. Wink

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« Reply #4: June 04, 2007, 12:50:25 pm »

Oops!  Almost forgot you, Star. <wince>

The great thing about the Farmer's Market, though, is that the people who raised the food are right there.  If you have questions about what "organic" means as applied to their food, you can just ask them.  Smiley  (Of course, at some point this does mean you've got to trust that people are telling you the truth.)

Yuppers!  And they love to tell you about their products! Cheesy


It can be, yeah.  Sad  Produce I find isn't so bad if you get the right stuff and get it in-season.  Meats, though, as you mentioned, can be pretty expensive.  But it really does taste better, and Hubby and I feel like it's worth it when we can afford it...  So we use less meat and supplement it when we have to (which is more than I'd like) with less-expensive megamart meat.  It's actually been really interesting for us, learning to cook around what's in-season and all that.  Smiley

I lucked out in the meat department (re: my reply to Mandrina); a 3.75 lb turkey breast at the FM cost $15!!  Maybe I'll leave it in the freezer until Thanksgiving! Grin

Learning to cook around what's in-season will be interesting for me, too.  I'm off this weekend so maybe I can pick some berries and do some CSA stuff. Smiley

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« Reply #5: June 04, 2007, 05:51:09 pm »

Oops!  Almost forgot you, Star. <wince>

Yuppers!  And they love to tell you about their products! Cheesy


I lucked out in the meat department (re: my reply to Mandrina); a 3.75 lb turkey breast at the FM cost $15!!  Maybe I'll leave it in the freezer until Thanksgiving! Grin

Learning to cook around what's in-season will be interesting for me, too.  I'm off this weekend so maybe I can pick some berries and do some CSA stuff. Smiley

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Our CSA's have started for the season, and you pay for the whole season (prorated if you join late), but there might be csa's who sell a share by the week,
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« Reply #6: June 04, 2007, 07:03:40 pm »

Our CSA's have started for the season, and you pay for the whole season,

Yeah, that's the only thing that's really stopped us from joining one.  Unfortunately it's a lot harder for us to come up with that money all in one chunk (or even a couple) than it is to come up with a few bucks to buy veggies each week as we go.  Sad
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« Reply #7: June 04, 2007, 07:51:21 pm »

Our CSA's have started for the season, and you pay for the whole season (prorated if you join late), but there might be csa's who sell a share by the week,

I'll chat them up Thursday and see what's up.

Thanks again for the tip. Wink

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« Reply #8: June 04, 2007, 08:15:04 pm »

Yeah, that's the only thing that's really stopped us from joining one.  Unfortunately it's a lot harder for us to come up with that money all in one chunk (or even a couple) than it is to come up with a few bucks to buy veggies each week as we go.  Sad

Ours will take four payments.  There are at least three others locally, I'm not sure what the situation is with them.
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