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« Reply #15: September 17, 2010, 06:50:49 pm »

Oh. I get it now! Thanks!

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« Reply #16: September 27, 2010, 05:10:39 am »

I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you believe in the Gods and scientific theories about how the world was made? Is there a way to believe in both science and the Gods?

Sorry if I sound stupid or ignorant. I don't have much experience in this area. So sorry.

Yes, I believe this is possible. If you believe the scientific explanation as real, and the creation story as a lesson. Mostly they have a deeper meaning, that contains stuff to think about, with every day problems. I also believe that the stories are created by people in their needs to explaining earthly things, when science wasn't developed yet.  

But I don't believe that there was an actual "creation". The universe always was and always is and always will be. I believe in the big bang theory, but even there I believe all material was already there (but in a little dot with an enormous gravity). You can see it in scientific experiments. You put some things in a jar weight the jar, you close the jar, shake it around so a chemical reaction occurs, then weight it again. The weight hasn't changed, only the form of appearance. So actually the only thing that happens is continually change and rearranging of molecules. And with the right combination, life in this form as we know it now on earth was possible.
Therefor if there are Gods right now, they also were always there and always will be. But the question is how they manifest. Some people see the sun as a God because it provides light, warmth, and therefor life. That is magical. I think the Gods helps us remember the essential thing about life. The sun is never just the sun, it is on of our sources of life and therefor we should respect and care about it. I could go on like this for every single God but I hope you'll get my point. Gods present the essentials of life. It's just how you look at it. And what does it matter if they are real or not? If they are in your head and keep you on a pathway that makes you feel happy in life, why bother?
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« Reply #17: September 28, 2010, 11:55:03 pm »

I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you believe in the Gods and scientific theories about how the world was made? Is there a way to believe in both science and the Gods?

Sorry if I sound stupid or ignorant. I don't have much experiance in this area. So sorry.

You don't sound stupid or ignorant.  Stop worrying!  There is no such thing as a stupid question (inquisitive idiots notwithstanding).

Well, knowing both people who refuse to believe that dinosaur bones aren't a hoax and people who wonder why people insist on trying to find reasons where there aren't any (their words, not mine), I think it's a matter of how you look at it.  I know a lot of people who are Christian, but instead of saying "science is wrong", they say "evolution happened...because God made it happen".  It's keeping the 'how', but adding the 'why' where Science can't figure it out.
Aaaand I think I've just restated everything Moon Ivy et al have said.

But there's a thread somewhere...which I, for the life of me can't find, but will come across in about ten minutes and kick myself...that talks about mythology and whether one could write new myths and still have them be "true", where there seems to be a general consensus that myths are not written to be 'true' as such; they are written to explain something about the Gods or about values or to be a darn good story that just happens to show the character of X deity or something like that.  If you use that reasoning and apply it to creation myths, then you can definitely say "well, Science tells us that this is actually what happened, but this is a stylised version that shows us why the deities want to look after us/why this world is important to them/insert message from creation myth of your choice here".  Myths don't have to be true, but they do have to help us understand.

Hope that wasn't to verbose, and is myth-like in that it provided some insight  Cheesy

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