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« Reply #15: September 29, 2010, 09:29:31 am »

Hear, hear!  For me, the times it gets truly mystical are the times when I'm being smacked "upside the head"...and I'd like to say I could do without that, thank you!  Unfortunately (or fortunately?), with my goddess it comes with the territory.

lol I hear you!
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« Reply #16: September 29, 2010, 10:01:53 am »

I think it was put best by...HeartShadow?  Or was it Juni?  Please tell me if I've misattributed - that many of the gods come from boasting cultures.  If you talked to someone who was very important, you had to tell them how 'rad and awesome' you were so that they'd know why they were bothering to talk to you. 

Pretty sure that was Darkhawk, actually. Smiley
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« Reply #17: September 29, 2010, 10:22:54 am »

Pretty sure that was Darkhawk, actually. Smiley

But, oh, so true. In every book I've been reading about ancient Egypt, the magician in question had to go on about how he was like this god and that god and if the god he was asking for assistance wouldn't help, then the magician would make sure that they were never remembered and their offerings would sour, etc. You had to be able to show that you were god-like but you also had to be explicit in what kind of horrors would befall the god if they didn't listen.
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« Reply #18: September 29, 2010, 10:27:21 am »

But, oh, so true. In every book I've been reading about ancient Egypt, the magician in question had to go on about how he was like this god and that god and if the god he was asking for assistance wouldn't help, then the magician would make sure that they were never remembered and their offerings would sour, etc. You had to be able to show that you were god-like but you also had to be explicit in what kind of horrors would befall the god if they didn't listen.

My favorite is always "...or the sun boat will never move AGAIN!"  For some reason, it always makes me want to insert "MWAHAHAHA!" when I read it.  I never do, though.  Grin
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« Reply #19: September 29, 2010, 10:48:37 am »

My favorite is always "...or the sun boat will never move AGAIN!"  For some reason, it always makes me want to insert "MWAHAHAHA!" when I read it.  I never do, though.  Grin

I literally hear this, funny.  Grin

Threats to gods, saints or spirits are not so unusual.
Can not remember now, where I read this, but if the saint in question wasnt cooperating, it could happen that his statue ended up upside down in the river mud.

I thought it very funny, how bribes and threats were thought by humans to work on deities (or the deity-like).
It is like folks thinking: hey, you are maybe more powerful, but that is no reason to be intimidated, because you are not so different from us. So fulfill our wish - or else... Wink
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« Reply #20: September 29, 2010, 10:55:03 am »

I literally hear this, funny.  Grin

Threats to gods, saints or spirits are not so unusual.
Can not remember now, where I read this, but if the saint in question wasnt cooperating, it could happen that his statue ended up upside down in the river mud.

I thought it very funny, how bribes and threats were thought by humans to work on deities (or the deity-like).
It is like folks thinking: hey, you are maybe more powerful, but that is no reason to be intimidated, because you are not so different from us. So fulfill our wish - or else... Wink

I know I've posted this before, but my friend's mother used to threaten Saint Anthony that she'd leave him in a jar until he found her keys.
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« Reply #21: September 29, 2010, 10:56:53 am »

I know I've posted this before, but my friend's mother used to threaten Saint Anthony that she'd leave him in a jar until he found her keys.

Brilliance.  Cheesy
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« Reply #22: September 29, 2010, 10:59:19 am »

Brilliance.  Cheesy

Oh my, now I have the nicest visual about Saint Anthony trying to persuade the Faeries to give the keys back, because he wants out of the jar, dang it. *lol*
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« Reply #23: September 29, 2010, 01:13:34 pm »

Oh my, now I have the nicest visual about Saint Anthony trying to persuade the Faeries to give the keys back, because he wants out of the jar, dang it. *lol*

This is so ingrained in me: I still pray to Saint Anthony to help me find things. It's like, the first thing I think of. Then I do a quick find-it spell and then I have to thank everyone and everything because I never know who/what actually found the item in question.
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« Reply #24: September 29, 2010, 05:28:28 pm »

I cant speak for the other folk around here, but mostly it is not as spectacular as it sounds, if I say: My Goddess told me this or that. This sounds like: woah, mystical, mysterious, great thing - but it is often much more ordinary.

Exactly. It's a voice in my head (often in dreams). It's not something exciting like Athena appears in front of me in a flash of light.
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« Reply #25: September 29, 2010, 06:03:49 pm »

Exactly. It's a voice in my head (often in dreams). It's not something exciting like Athena appears in front of me in a flash of light.

To be honest, I'd worry about my state of physical and mental health a lot more, if I had such a vision with flash of light and star appearance of my Lady, than with that mind voice thing.

That is something I know.
Animal communication works that way too and most of the time I'm able to tell the difference between my voice and their voices.

The rest is "to err is human" and so on. Wink

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« Reply #26: September 30, 2010, 09:02:50 pm »

I've actually gotten yelled at for having Egyptian gods as part of my altar set up. I'm starting back at the beginning due to several things and I told someone on a forum, forgot which, that I have Egyptian gods as part of my altar set-up. I told them that I had a connection to Isis and Anubis and they said 'Oh well your not really Wiccan. Wiccan's don't have relationships outside the Celtic Pantheon.'

I've never returned to that forum since.

I think that Wiccans and witches can have a relationship with any god or goddess that they want. The gods speak to us and I believe that we need to listen.
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Hi, TradWitch - don't forget to quote.  Thanks!

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« Reply #28: September 30, 2010, 10:11:32 pm »

I've actually gotten yelled at for having Egyptian gods as part of my altar set up. I'm starting back at the beginning due to several things and I told someone on a forum, forgot which, that I have Egyptian gods as part of my altar set-up. I told them that I had a connection to Isis and Anubis and they said 'Oh well your not really Wiccan. Wiccan's don't have relationships outside the Celtic Pantheon.'

I've never returned to that forum since.

I think that Wiccans and witches can have a relationship with any god or goddess that they want. The gods speak to us and I believe that we need to listen.

Riiiiiight. Because the broad term Wicca is totally a Celtic religion Roll Eyes Sounds like those people were a little closed-minded.

I know plenty of Wiccans and Wiccish people who love Egypt, particularly Isis and Osiris. The gods look for certain folks, and folks look for certain gods. Even if someone were a practicing, say, Asatruar, that doesn't mean that outside the practice of Asatru, they can't ever pray to a non-Norse deity.
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« Reply #29: September 30, 2010, 10:22:29 pm »

Hi, TradWitch - don't forget to quote.  Thanks!

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