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« Topic Start: October 02, 2010, 09:53:32 am »


Druids recognized as religion for first time in UK

LONDON — Druidry has been officially recognized as a religion in Britain under charity law.

The Charity Commission has granted the Druid Network charitable status, giving it tax breaks and equal status to mainstream religions like Christianity.
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« Reply #2: October 02, 2010, 01:28:43 pm »

Druids recognized as religion for first time in UK

LONDON — Druidry has been officially recognized as a religion in Britain under charity law.

The Charity Commission has granted the Druid Network charitable status, giving it tax breaks and equal status to mainstream religions like Christianity.

Grumble grumble.

How is Britan's laws different than the US with regards to recognizing religions vice granting tax exempt / charitable status for religious organizations?

This sounds, from the posted section, more like a single Druid group got off their butt and applied as a charitiable group.

What about BDO, CoBOD and a bunch of other organizations?
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« Reply #3: October 02, 2010, 02:39:59 pm »

How is Britan's laws different than the US with regards to recognizing religions vice granting tax exempt / charitable status for religious organizations?

That was my first thought.

My second was much the same as yours...someone finally got around to applying.

Third thought was the headline was written by someone who doesn't grok the political system there (or here if it had been a US group).
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« Reply #4: October 02, 2010, 02:56:55 pm »

Grumble grumble.

How is Britan's laws different than the US with regards to recognizing religions vice granting tax exempt / charitable status for religious organizations?

This sounds, from the posted section, more like a single Druid group got off their butt and applied as a charitiable group.

What about BDO, CoBOD and a bunch of other organizations?

In the US it's, (unofficially, does the group have any groups actively against them?)
Have they applied? Do they qualify?   Wink did they grease the wheels?
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« Reply #5: October 02, 2010, 04:31:58 pm »

How is Britan's laws different than the US with regards to recognizing religions vice granting tax exempt / charitable status for religious organizations?

This sounds, from the posted section, more like a single Druid group got off their butt and applied as a charitiable group.

Yes, it just happened to be the by-product of the Charity Commission's decision: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11457795

What is US law re charitable status for religious organisations?

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« Reply #6: October 02, 2010, 04:34:51 pm »

How is Britan's laws different than the US with regards to recognizing religions vice granting tax exempt / charitable status for religious organizations?

I expect it is considerably different considering the UK does have an official religion -- something the US is not allowed to have.
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« Reply #7: October 02, 2010, 05:31:26 pm »

Yes, it just happened to be the by-product of the Charity Commission's decision: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11457795

What is US law re charitable status for religious organisations?



Charitable status is granted by our IRS and is only an acknowledgment that the correct forms were filled out properly.

The US Government isn't allowed to grant "recognition" or "official status" to any religion...despite what you sometimes read when someone says Wicca was officially recognized as a religion. They don't get to pick and choose who gets to be a religion.
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« Reply #8: October 02, 2010, 05:40:33 pm »

Charitable status is granted by our IRS and is only an acknowledgment that the correct forms were filled out properly.

The US Government isn't allowed to grant "recognition" or "official status" to any religion...despite what you sometimes read when someone says Wicca was officially recognized as a religion. They don't get to pick and choose who gets to be a religion.

Lyric and Randall already know this, but the knowledge of other readers ..

Wicca can't be "recognized" in the US. Specific Wiccan groups can be recognized as being religious non-profits.  Or the actions of groups or individuals can be recognized as being religious and thus deserving of 1st amendment protections (at the Federal level).

For example, the state of Virginia has a much stronger seperation of church and state clause in it's state constitution. A family can home school their children as they see fit on religious grounds.  If they don't have religious grounds, they must follow a bunch of state regs on home schooling.

So, if a person says they are Wiccan, and don't want to teach something while home schooling they have to prove (to a low standard) that they Wiccan and it's a religious basis. Now, if a person the next town over wants to also claim they are Wiccan, they'll have to start from scratch if they are not members of the same coven / organization. Different covens, different religions.
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« Reply #9: October 02, 2010, 05:59:43 pm »

For example, the state of Virginia has a much stronger seperation of church and state clause in it's state constitution. A family can home school their children as they see fit on religious grounds.  If they don't have religious grounds, they must follow a bunch of state regs on home schooling.

So, if a person says they are Wiccan, and don't want to teach something while home schooling they have to prove (to a low standard) that they Wiccan and it's a religious basis. Now, if a person the next town over wants to also claim they are Wiccan, they'll have to start from scratch if they are not members of the same coven / organization. Different covens, different religions.

Didn't know this. Good info. Smiley
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« Reply #10: October 06, 2010, 06:23:43 am »

Lyric and Randall already know this, but the knowledge of other readers ..

Wicca can't be "recognized" in the US. Specific Wiccan groups can be recognized as being religious non-profits.  Or the actions of groups or individuals can be recognized as being religious and thus deserving of 1st amendment protections (at the Federal level).

For example, the state of Virginia has a much stronger seperation of church and state clause in it's state constitution. A family can home school their children as they see fit on religious grounds.  If they don't have religious grounds, they must follow a bunch of state regs on home schooling.

So, if a person says they are Wiccan, and don't want to teach something while home schooling they have to prove (to a low standard) that they Wiccan and it's a religious basis. Now, if a person the next town over wants to also claim they are Wiccan, they'll have to start from scratch if they are not members of the same coven / organization. Different covens, different religions.


I didn't know this either, thanks for the info. What gets me, and I was reading all these stupid comments on Yahoo, was that the close-minded Christians have no grasp of what they do over in the UK. They all think that Christianity is officially recognized and therefore they can spout off their hate. I was surprised to hear that the U.S government can't officially a religion, but of course you can't tell the Christians or Wiccans that. I'm glad that Druidry is 'officially' recognized as a religion. 
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« Reply #11: October 06, 2010, 06:59:55 am »

I didn't know this either, thanks for the info. What gets me, and I was reading all these stupid comments on Yahoo, was that the close-minded Christians have no grasp of what they do over in the UK. They all think that Christianity is officially recognized and therefore they can spout off their hate. I was surprised to hear that the U.S government can't officially a religion, but of course you can't tell the Christians or Wiccans that. I'm glad that Druidry is 'officially' recognized as a religion. 

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I didn't know this either, thanks for the info. What gets me, and I was reading all these stupid comments on Yahoo, was that the close-minded Christians have no grasp of what they do over in the UK. They all think that Christianity is officially recognized and therefore they can spout off their hate. I was surprised to hear that the U.S government can't officially a religion, but of course you can't tell the Christians or Wiccans that. I'm glad that Druidry is 'officially' recognized as a religion. 

Separation of church and state and all that. The US can't officially recognize any religion - theoretically, they all have to be treated equally.
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« Reply #13: October 06, 2010, 11:42:42 am »

I didn't know this either, thanks for the info. What gets me, and I was reading all these stupid comments on Yahoo, was that the close-minded Christians have no grasp of what they do over in the UK. They all think that Christianity is officially recognized and therefore they can spout off their hate. I was surprised to hear that the U.S government can't officially a religion, but of course you can't tell the Christians or Wiccans that. I'm glad that Druidry is 'officially' recognized as a religion. 

Uh, Christianity, or rather one specific denomination is the official state religion of the UK. So, all those close minded Christians seem to at least have a partial grasp on what is going on in the UK.

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« Reply #14: October 06, 2010, 03:52:07 pm »

Uh, Christianity, or rather one specific denomination is the official state religion of the UK. So, all those close minded Christians seem to at least have a partial grasp on what is going on in the UK.

*Nods* The Church of England is generally considered Protestant, but doesn't consider itself 'fully' Protestant in that it still retains Catholic theology, being only partially shaped by the Reformation. To be honest, I find it rather baffling how religion is still so intrinsically linked with the running of state, but I do like that our history is still prevalent in today's society. I know some might think we're clinging on to long-dead values and traditions, but I like it. In my eyes, we have a cool history, and I want to see it preserved. The Queen, to an extent, and her link to the Church and whatever else - slightly outdated and 'pointless', I guess, but most people I know still feel very attached and loyal to this aspect of the UK that's often brushed over nowadays.
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