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« Reply #15: October 21, 2010, 02:05:49 pm »


If I remember correctly, it wasn't that this organisation wanted to be recognised as a religion, they needed to show the UK tax folks what they were doing with money they received from people via membership fees and similar. Which required them to be recognised as a religion for the correct exemptions. Bah. I need to go and read more on this.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1317490/Druids-official-religion-Stones-Praise-come.html

I suppose this article was to be expected.
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« Reply #16: October 21, 2010, 04:45:59 pm »


Eh. It pleases me to see that none of the comments were positive towards the article.
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« Reply #17: October 21, 2010, 04:47:50 pm »


If I remember correctly, it wasn't that this organisation wanted to be recognised as a religion, they needed to show the UK tax folks what they were doing

Yes, it was a Charities Commission decision.
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« Reply #18: October 22, 2010, 01:50:03 am »

Eh. It pleases me to see that none of the comments were positive towards the article.

I just went back and read the comments. I didn't dare do so last night in case it sent my blood pressure through the roof and she's getting quite a savaging isn't she, the journalist?

I suspect the stupid woman is doing it for attention - "real life" trolling, you could say. I really doubt she's actually a Christian, just someone who uses the traditionalist "Christian country" idea to suit her own ends. 
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« Reply #19: October 22, 2010, 01:59:21 am »


Oh, wait. Apparently she's Jewish.   
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« Reply #20: October 22, 2010, 03:22:33 pm »


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« Reply #21: October 22, 2010, 03:27:20 pm »


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Wait...this isn't the guy who thinks he's a reincarnation of King Arthur... Miranda Green mentioned him in her Druid book if I'm not mistaken Huh  Shocked
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« Reply #22: October 23, 2010, 04:42:38 am »

Just a really weird kind of reasoning...



The Daily Mail appears to have some sort of issue with the concept of human rights, or more specifically the Human Rights Act of 1998, hence the shoehorning it into an article on "those wacky pagans". The argument runs: "Human rights let these strange people do this, isn't it terrible? We should repeal the Human Rights Act at once!" It's a bit desperate when you're attacking freedom of religion as something awful.
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« Reply #23: October 23, 2010, 02:05:45 pm »

The Daily Mail appears to have some sort of issue with the concept of human rights, or more specifically the Human Rights Act of 1998, hence the shoehorning it into an article on "those wacky pagans". The argument runs: "Human rights let these strange people do this, isn't it terrible? We should repeal the Human Rights Act at once!" It's a bit desperate when you're attacking freedom of religion as something awful.

I thought that The Daily Mail was just a lurid tabloid and their reasoning is:  "The more offensive/off the wall shit we publish, the more money we will get."  So "real life trolling" but by a "newspaper" written by "journalist."

(the quotation marks in the final sentence are there for my own sanity)
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« Reply #24: October 23, 2010, 03:16:45 pm »

I thought that The Daily Mail was just a lurid tabloid and their reasoning is:  "The more offensive/off the wall shit we publish, the more money we will get."  So "real life trolling" but by a "newspaper" written by "journalist."

(the quotation marks in the final sentence are there for my own sanity)

Oh, in my opinion it is. It's a tabloid with bigger words and slightly less celebrity drivel. And a mind-boggling fixation with house prices.
The Mail is fond of distorting facts, ignoring inconvenient truths and outright making shit up to support their representation of the world. It's the dishonesty I dislike, rather than a differing political outlook.

Anyway. I didn't mean to turn this thread into a rant about the British press.
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« Reply #25: October 23, 2010, 03:25:40 pm »

I thought that The Daily Mail was just a lurid tabloid and their reasoning is:  "The more offensive/off the wall shit we publish, the more money we will get."  So "real life trolling" but by a "newspaper" written by "journalist."

Unfortunately quite a number of people seem to take it srsly.

It's quite funny how in law journals, academics (who tend to be highly supportive of the Human Rights Act) slag the Mail off.
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« Reply #26: October 23, 2010, 03:50:41 pm »

Unfortunately quite a number of people seem to take it srsly.

It's quite funny how in law journals, academics (who tend to be highly supportive of the Human Rights Act) slag the Mail off.

Regrettably, yes. People like my gran who like to hear things that back up what they already think, not to have said opinions challenged nor to reconsider said opinions. I fear it's not that the Mail feels the HRA is flawed, more that they want to be free to squash minorities they dislike, which was exactly what the Act was intended to prevent. 
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« Reply #27: October 23, 2010, 04:00:07 pm »

Regrettably, yes. People like my gran who like to hear things that back up what they already think, not to have said opinions challenged nor to reconsider said opinions.

Sort of like Fox News in the States?
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« Reply #28: October 23, 2010, 04:05:09 pm »

Sort of like Fox News in the States?

I cannot say I have personal experience of Fox News, but from what I gather, yes.
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« Reply #29: October 23, 2010, 10:45:58 pm »

Oh, in my opinion it is. It's a tabloid with bigger words and slightly less celebrity drivel. And a mind-boggling fixation with house prices.
The Mail is fond of distorting facts, ignoring inconvenient truths and outright making shit up to support their representation of the world. It's the dishonesty I dislike, rather than a differing political outlook.

Anyway. I didn't mean to turn this thread into a rant about the British press.


Lol don't worry. If it's any consolation, I think it's the same problem the world over.

The same guy that owns Fox news in the U.S. also owns Sky news last time I checked. If you're familiar with the later at all, you'll know just what we in the U.S. have to deal with.

In truth, it's not conservatism. It's not about conserving good values at all. It's about stupidism.
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