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« Reply #15: October 26, 2010, 10:58:36 pm »


CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!

And, yes, pictures, please.   Cheesy
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« Reply #16: October 27, 2010, 12:41:54 am »

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!

And, yes, pictures, please.   Cheesy

Thanks again, all.

The BF (I guess now I have to say fiance) bought a kickass new digital camera just for the trip, and he's a graphic designer/art director/artist guy, so he has a good eye. So I left nearly all the photography up to him. (I *hate* taking photographs; I'd rather just experience what's happening, and write about it in my journal later.)

Once he downloads them when we get home, I'll try to post the choicest...though as I recall, this forum's system is less than ideal for big photos.
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« Reply #17: October 27, 2010, 12:50:15 am »

Thanks again, all.

The BF (I guess now I have to say fiance) bought a kickass new digital camera just for the trip, and he's a graphic designer/art director/artist guy, so he has a good eye. So I left nearly all the photography up to him. (I *hate* taking photographs; I'd rather just experience what's happening, and write about it in my journal later.)

Once he downloads them when we get home, I'll try to post the choicest...though as I recall, this forum's system is less than ideal for big photos.

Just load them into Photobucket and link from there.  I think you would be able to create an album of them as well.
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« Reply #18: October 27, 2010, 12:59:17 am »

That's an interesting idea. Do mountain gods (and perhaps associated deities) move to the youngest/highest mountains as old mountains wear down and new mountain chains are born?

One's concept of deity would definitely influence how one answers, I think.

As a semi-soft polytheist, I'd say the same forces that different cultures perceive in different ways to make different gods may indeed switch their "prime" address as mountains age and new ones are born. If one envisions deities inhabiting some exalted realm situated in a high place, it makes sense that the newest/highest would be their abode.

On the other hand, I don't think culturally specific deities can or should change their address. For example, there's a specific goddess in Tibetan Buddhist mythology associated with the mountain Chomolungma (Mt. Everest). I don't think she's going anywhere, even if in a million years Australia smacks into Chile to make the Hyperandes Mtns, or somesuch.

If that makes any sense.

All sorts of interesting questions and issues have been swirling around in my head since this trip. F'ex, I never knew until now that Tibetan Buddhism pays homage to the same 5 elements as the classical West (earth, air, fire, water, spirit). This is a fascinating convergence to my mind, since I don't think the two cultures had any significant contact in antiquity.

But the colors associated with each element in Tibetan Buddhism (earth = yellow, air = white, fire = red, water = green, spirit = blue) for the most part make little sense to my Western mind. The colors are fine, just all mixed up: I'd go for earth = green (for the plants that grow in it), air = yellow (color of the sky at dawn), fire = red, water = blue, and spirit = white.

Just one of many intriguing questions/thoughts.

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Congratulations on the engagement, and on your successful pilgrimage!

Good to see you back -- and I'll echo the call for pictures. Cheesy
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« Reply #20: October 27, 2010, 05:24:47 am »

Just load them into Photobucket and link from there.  I think you would be able to create an album of them as well.

Thanks, Mel. Will do, once we're home.
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« Reply #21: October 27, 2010, 06:56:39 am »

Hello, fellow Cauldronites,

Just a quick note, since I finally have Internet access, to say that I've successfully trekked the Himalayan mountains to Everest Base Camp and back. (I'm currently in Kathmandu, taking it easy before beginning the long haul home to the States.) For those who've been following such stuff, this is part 5 of my five-part pagan pilgrimage, this one dedicated to air/the east.

In a word: Breathtaking (literally and figuratively). I got some unexpected lessons along the way, and the whole trip has been difficult (this trek is not for the fainthearted!) but enormously rewarding. My paganism feels downright rejuvenated.

And for those who follow such stuff (i.e., the proposal), he said yes.

So cool, all of it!
Congrats!

Also I am looking forward to the pictures. Smiley
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« Reply #22: October 27, 2010, 07:21:25 am »


I wholeheartedly join in the squeeing! Many, many congratulations on both counts!
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« Reply #23: October 27, 2010, 07:59:02 am »

All sorts of interesting questions and issues have been swirling around in my head since this trip. F'ex, I never knew until now that Tibetan Buddhism pays homage to the same 5 elements as the classical West (earth, air, fire, water, spirit). This is a fascinating convergence to my mind, since I don't think the two cultures had any significant contact in antiquity.

The might have as the Greeks made it to the Western parts India under Alexander and their traders might have gone even further.

But the colors associated with each element in Tibetan Buddhism (earth = yellow, air = white, fire = red, water = green, spirit = blue) for the most part make little sense to my Western mind. [/quote]

I can see air and fire, but yellow for earth and green for water? I'd love to know why those colors were selected.
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« Reply #24: October 27, 2010, 08:01:12 am »


More squeeing and congrats thrown on the heap!
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« Reply #25: October 27, 2010, 08:07:54 am »

Hello, fellow Cauldronites,

So, so cool. Cheesy

MANY CONGRATULATIONS! Smiley

I'm glad to hear it went so well.
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« Reply #26: October 27, 2010, 08:48:18 am »

And for those who follow such stuff (i.e., the proposal), he said yes.

Congratulations! Best wishes to you both!
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« Reply #27: October 27, 2010, 10:26:36 am »

The might have as the Greeks made it to the Western parts India under Alexander and their traders might have gone even further.

But the colors associated with each element in Tibetan Buddhism (earth = yellow, air = white, fire = red, water = green, spirit = blue) for the most part make little sense to my Western mind.

I can see air and fire, but yellow for earth and green for water? I'd love to know why those colors were selected.

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Buddhism/colors.html

That's about the most comprehensive discussion of color in Buddhist art/religion I can find at the moment. As with so many Eastern concepts, there is little "cut and dried" about the use of colors; those used in art are not necessarily those used in religious rituals, the meaning in art may not be the same as in other areas, etc. Those of us looking for neat, tidy explanations are almost sure to be disappointed. :-)

From the article on the site:
"Yellow is the color closest to daylight."
"Green is the color we relate to in nature, trees, and plants."
"Blue is the coolest, most detached, and least 'material' of all hues" (after an enumeration of concepts associated with the color, such as spiritual and intellectual life, purity, eternity)
Red relates to both life and the threat to life (Red Cross's symbol, DANGER signs, fire as lifesaver and destroyer), the color of passion (fiery emotion)
White: "not necessarily thought of as a color" since all colors are within white. Associated with learning and knowledge (intellect--with air, as in Western tradition)
Black is also included in the discussion, FWIW.

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« Reply #28: October 27, 2010, 10:43:42 am »


Fabulous! Congratulations all around! 
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« Reply #29: October 27, 2010, 12:49:20 pm »

If one envisions deities inhabiting some exalted realm situated in a high place, it makes sense that the newest/highest would be their abode.

So... they're moving on up?  To the east side? To the deluxe apartment in the sky?

::runs::

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