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« Topic Start: November 17, 2010, 12:09:33 am »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?
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« Reply #1: November 17, 2010, 12:41:43 am »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

Somewhere between "useful (depending on the person)" and "innocuous". Personally, I don't use them, and I've never really wanted to, anyways. *shrug*
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« Reply #2: November 17, 2010, 01:13:49 am »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

It is a tool like anything else, it is in how you use it.  I think the danger comes from people not being aware of what is out there and not knowing how to handle it.  I used mine once, and found it not very useful; it was too much effort for minimal results, and it attracted a bit more attention than I would have liked.
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« Reply #3: November 17, 2010, 09:24:40 am »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

Personally, I think all the hype is what causes the problems that people experience.

When I was about 9 we had one that I played with all the time. Nothing bad ever happened. Well, nothing much at all ever happened, lol. I certainly wasn't plagued by evil spirits or anything. So I believe that if a person expects a negative experience, that's exactly what they'll get. I have a hard time believing that something mass produced by Parker Brothers can be inherently evil. Just like Tarot cards, runes, or a pendulum, it can be a useful tool for divination.

I have been thinking of making my own for a while now. I feel like if I make my own, I can clearly define it's purpose. I can include symbolism that is relevant to my path and I can leave some of the accumulated baggage attached to them behind.

But, this is based on my personal experience with them. YMMV
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« Reply #4: November 17, 2010, 09:38:38 am »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

I should answer my own question.

I think stupid people do stupid things, more or less. If they try to make contact with a demon or an evil spirit, then by gods, they're going to get it. Still, I'm too leery of the unseen universe to bring one into my house.
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« Reply #5: November 17, 2010, 12:03:28 pm »

So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

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« Reply #6: November 17, 2010, 12:30:28 pm »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?


I don't like them. Which is probably just as well because my husband is adamant about my never bringing one into our home. I don't like them because while I'd probably border on atheism for the most part, I have never ruled out malevolence as far as spirits go. And I understand that working with them is always risky, especially if you don't know exactly whom you're calling. I believe that this is why I don't actively engage land spirits and why I don't just call on the spiritworld on a dime. In face, I've never called on it. I've done things in the name of a particular God/dess, in the name of an ancestor specifically, and have honored specific spirits, but I've never walked there, and I've never asked for favors from just anyone. I have just heard too many horror stories about Ouija to make it worth my exploration. I doubt my opinion on this will change.
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« Reply #7: November 17, 2010, 03:19:11 pm »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

I've heard from the paranormal community often that they can be dangerous because they 'invite in anything". However, I don't see the difference between saying "if there's anyone here, please feel free to move this planchette" and "if there's anyone here, feel free to speak into my voice recorder". However, as a ghost hunting tool they are poor as they have a high margin of error and the results aren't recordable, so I don't see much use for them.

I could see them being useful for contacting gods or other spirits as a divination tool, however, like others suggested.
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« Reply #8: November 17, 2010, 05:47:00 pm »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

To me the question is the same as asking if a hammer is good or evil (or to be more analogous, a telephone). It's used as a tool for contacting spirits. Some spirits are dicks. Some are nice. Just like corporeal beings.


Yes, I've used one, and yes, it worked. No, nothing bad happened (unless you count the time I used it at a sleepover and every time the planchette moved a gaggle of 12 year old girls ran shrieking from the room until my eardrums started to bleed; that was pretty bad (and a lot like this -- NSFW)). When I was in college my roommate stuck his glow in the dark one to the window as a decoration, mainly to piss off most of our relatives and friends.

Verdict: pretty innocuous. If you're tired of people calling you unplug the phone. If you don't want to be bothered by spirits, unplug the spirit board.
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« Reply #9: December 03, 2010, 12:09:58 am »


I don't like them. Which is probably just as well because my husband is adamant about my never bringing one into our home. I don't like them because while I'd probably border on atheism for the most part, I have never ruled out malevolence as far as spirits go. And I understand that working with them is always risky, especially if you don't know exactly whom you're calling. I believe that this is why I don't actively engage land spirits and why I don't just call on the spiritworld on a dime. In face, I've never called on it. I've done things in the name of a particular God/dess, in the name of an ancestor specifically, and have honored specific spirits, but I've never walked there, and I've never asked for favors from just anyone. I have just heard too many horror stories about Ouija to make it worth my exploration. I doubt my opinion on this will change.

That's the thing not commonly mentioned in most divination systems. There is always a price/consequence. It might be sommething as simple as the time and energy to operate the tool or if the person(s) don't know what they're doing it could be inviting something in that will cause trouble or worse. When I use divination tools I always set very clear boundaries and am as specific as possible to avoid trouble. Part of the problem with ouija boards is they have alot of negative hype around them. Another issue is that they are produced as a game. Could you imagine if random spirit summoning symbols were marketed as a game? It gives me the shivers! Likely that won't happen, but I use it to refer to the problem of something with potenitally dangerous consequences and spiritual impact being treated as a game. Now a homemade Ouija board with specific connections and proper treatment is a good idea.
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« Reply #10: December 03, 2010, 02:59:07 am »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?
I'm going with innocuous, I would have thought that intention would have more to do with it.
However it's not something I know much about, Ouija boards aren't really that common here.
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« Reply #11: December 03, 2010, 12:14:07 pm »

I've noticed a lot of mixed emotions on this. So, what's your opinion? Good, bad, evil, innocuous?

Simple answer?
It's a tool.

Like any other tool it can be useful, useless, harmless or dangerous.
I don't care for the idea of demonizing a tool. Wink
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« Reply #12: December 03, 2010, 12:53:24 pm »

I've heard from the paranormal community often that they can be dangerous because they 'invite in anything". However, I don't see the difference between saying "if there's anyone here, please feel free to move this planchette" and "if there's anyone here, feel free to speak into my voice recorder".

Just from personal experience, there is a huge difference between using a Quija board, rather than say, using  a pendulum. I have found that when using a Quija, it is more of a "Hey! I'm here! Come to my house and talk to me! Any one!!!" Almost like if you were to have a party, and all of a sudden alot of people just randomly show up, but you don't really know any of them, or how they knew you were having the party in the first place.

There is a lot less control when using a Quija simply because they are mass produced, they have no specific purpose other than to talk to spirits, but it does not delegate which spirits to speak with, whether to speak with spirits that are only currently present, or anything like that. It basically sends out a call to the spirits within close proximity, both good, bad, and neutral, saying there is someone who wants to speak with you, and then they all come flooding in. Some just want to make a connection, while others are curious, and then there are those who react with "oh, you want an experience, well i'll give you an experience..."

Making your own could be different though, I have never tried this, but I primarily stick to my pendulum and divination board that i made because i have more control. When making something yourself, you put your own energy and intentions into it whether you realize it or not, so the item being made is more specific to your needs, and generally works better. I generally only use the pendulum and divination board when doing readings for others(they help me stay focused when i am with other people) , but i would be mortified if i were to do a reading for someone and my tool were to all of a sudden bring other spirits into that persons home.  Shocked But, I suppose i have a bit of a bad taste from them because my mother used them alot when i was young, and she didn't really know what she was doing, and wasn't sensitive enough to even know she was inviting things in. As a result though, i will never use one, and i caution others against them unless they take the proper precautions. (which should be done whenever working with spirits any ways  Wink )
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