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« Topic Start: December 14, 2010, 11:31:05 pm »

I've been wondering exactly what is a Crane Bag? I read something about it on the net but I don't really fully understand what it is. Is it a bag that's made from a crane or what? Let me know, as I'm really confused.
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« Reply #1: December 15, 2010, 12:58:42 am »

I've been wondering exactly what is a Crane Bag? I read something about it on the net but I don't really fully understand what it is. Is it a bag that's made from a crane or what?

A very special crane, yes.

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« Reply #2: December 15, 2010, 01:07:49 am »


Thanks for giving me the link, I appreciate it. So does this mean that I can't have one unless I kill a crane.
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« Reply #3: December 15, 2010, 01:25:23 am »

Thanks for giving me the link, I appreciate it. So does this mean that I can't have one unless I kill a crane.

A crane that used to be a warrior woman, specifically, which is bound to be even more difficult to acquire.

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« Reply #4: December 15, 2010, 10:10:47 am »

Thanks for giving me the link, I appreciate it. So does this mean that I can't have one unless I kill a crane.

Why on earth would you want one?
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« Reply #5: December 15, 2010, 12:56:12 pm »

Why on earth would you want one?

I'm not going to kill an actual crane but from what I've been reading on the web most Celtic practitioner has one.
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« Reply #6: December 15, 2010, 01:00:20 pm »

I'm not going to kill an actual crane but from what I've been reading on the web most Celtic practitioner has one.

... then it's not the same thing at all, unless there's a lot of transformed warrior maids running around as cranes and somehow no one noticed.
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« Reply #7: December 15, 2010, 01:02:01 pm »

I'm not going to kill an actual crane but from what I've been reading on the web most Celtic practitioner has one.

Just wondering, where did you get this information from?
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« Reply #8: December 15, 2010, 01:04:32 pm »

Just wondering, where did you get this information from?

With the caveat that my Celtic experience has little to do with CR, the only time I've ever heard of a crane bag has been specifically in relation to Manannan. I don't think that most "Celtic practitioners" are required to have a crane bag.
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« Reply #9: December 15, 2010, 01:10:04 pm »

... then it's not the same thing at all, unless there's a lot of transformed warrior maids running around as cranes and somehow no one noticed.

Okay since it isn't the same thing then why do they call it a crane bag?
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« Reply #10: December 15, 2010, 01:50:38 pm »

Okay since it isn't the same thing then why do they call it a crane bag?

No idea, I'm not on those websites.  Nor do I feel the need to pretend importance and grand one-upmanship on a website, which so many do.

If I see claims that make no sense on a website, I tend to assume the claims and the person writing them is either lying or grossly misinformed.  I certainly don't assume it's true just because one person or a small group of people say it.
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« Reply #11: December 15, 2010, 02:05:03 pm »

Okay since it isn't the same thing then why do they call it a crane bag?

I think what you may be reading about is something like this: The Crane Bag.

This, by no means, is indicative that all Celtic practitioners utilize this modern-day tool (which is basically something like a Celtic medicine bag). In fact, I would say more Druidic practitioners use them than Traditionalists or Recons.
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« Reply #12: December 15, 2010, 02:29:54 pm »

I think what you may be reading about is something like this: The Crane Bag.

This, by no means, is indicative that all Celtic practitioners utilize this modern-day tool (which is basically something like a Celtic medicine bag). In fact, I would say more Druidic practitioners use them than Traditionalists or Recons.

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« Reply #13: December 15, 2010, 07:53:38 pm »

I think what you may be reading about is something like this: The Crane Bag.

This, by no means, is indicative that all Celtic practitioners utilize this modern-day tool (which is basically something like a Celtic medicine bag). In fact, I would say more Druidic practitioners use them than Traditionalists or Recons.

I would second this, and add that this tradition, as best I can tell, is unique to AODA, rather than being universal among Druidic paths. (I couldn't guarantee that, since I'm only a member of AODA and ADF, but I know for a fact that it's not part of ADF Dedicant practice.)
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« Reply #14: December 16, 2010, 01:04:31 pm »

I think what you may be reading about is something like this: The Crane Bag.

This, by no means, is indicative that all Celtic practitioners utilize this modern-day tool (which is basically something like a Celtic medicine bag). In fact, I would say more Druidic practitioners use them than Traditionalists or Recons.

I have to be honest, some of the best north american druids I know and know of use a crane bag/medicine bag. It is a widely practiced tradition in celtic neopaganism. It has its good and bad points tho imo.

For example a crane bag/medicine bag is a literal interpretation of something deeply symbollic and in that way its not massively great as a practice imo cos its just teaching people that Irish myth isnt literature but some kind of gospel. I can appreciate that some people come from a religious background where that literal interpretation is normal but myth isnt like the bible. Treating it as if it is could possibly lead people down a bad road.

But for the bad points it has good in it too. it might also be representative of folk practices surrounding the family sewing bag. In folklore its used to trap fairies and demons, it holds magic objects and is enchanted itself. It could be related to the existing Piseog bag tradition where to bless or curse youd place a number of things into a bag and hang it from a tree on the land of the person you want to effect. Its not a shaman thing, thats north america not Ireland but it is similar enough to possibly excuse calling the practice celtic.
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