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« Reply #15: January 08, 2011, 06:55:09 pm »

Someone got a screen grab.  I saw it on Twitter earlier.

http://yfrog.com/h6hb5tqj

Yep. And her opponent in November ran an ad for a political rally for people to take aim at Giffords. Apparently attendees were allowed to do some target practice, as well.
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« Reply #16: January 08, 2011, 06:56:26 pm »

Oh. And something to keep in mind is that Arizona allows concealed carry w/o a permit now (since August), and it will be interesting to see if that comes in to play here, too.
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« Reply #17: January 08, 2011, 07:08:44 pm »

Oh. And something to keep in mind is that Arizona allows concealed carry w/o a permit now (since August), and it will be interesting to see if that comes in to play here, too.

Oh God. Not that it'd be a surprise, but I am so sick of when these things happen, folks get more concerned bickering over gun laws than they do the fact there are wounded and dead people.
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« Reply #18: January 08, 2011, 07:20:44 pm »

Oh God. Not that it'd be a surprise, but I am so sick of when these things happen, folks get more concerned bickering over gun laws than they do the fact there are wounded and dead people.

Oh I definitely get concerned about gun laws. And yes. I'll happily bicker over them. The way I see it, when this guy decided to go out and shoot political figures, he politicized the event, and those discussions definitely have merit. So yeah. Concern and prayers for the families involved, but there is also a need to realize the forces that drive things like this as well as what opportunities are available to complete the actions.
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« Reply #19: January 08, 2011, 07:50:43 pm »

Oh I definitely get concerned about gun laws. And yes. I'll happily bicker over them. The way I see it, when this guy decided to go out and shoot political figures, he politicized the event, and those discussions definitely have merit. So yeah. Concern and prayers for the families involved, but there is also a need to realize the forces that drive things like this as well as what opportunities are available to complete the actions.

I understand where you're coming from. In my experience I've just seen everything else get eclipsed by political fighting, especially in inappropriate venues (say, memorial pages).
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« Reply #20: January 08, 2011, 08:12:07 pm »

I understand where you're coming from. In my experience I've just seen everything else get eclipsed by political fighting, especially in inappropriate venues (say, memorial pages).

There's going to be enough crazy to go around on this guy. Left and right alike are going to mine his comments and find some real nuggets. This guy was seriously unhinged (not that people who do shit like this are really ever hinged, IMO).
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« Reply #21: January 08, 2011, 08:20:54 pm »

There's going to be enough crazy to go around on this guy. Left and right alike are going to mine his comments and find some real nuggets. This guy was seriously unhinged (not that people who do shit like this are really ever hinged, IMO).

Hopefully this puts the nail in the coffin for Palin being able to run for President.  Granted, I'd like her to run and get shot down hard.
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« Reply #22: January 08, 2011, 08:24:09 pm »

There's going to be enough crazy to go around on this guy. Left and right alike are going to mine his comments and find some real nuggets. This guy was seriously unhinged (not that people who do shit like this are really ever hinged, IMO).

His youtube page

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

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« Reply #23: January 08, 2011, 08:25:25 pm »

Hopefully this puts the nail in the coffin for Palin being able to run for President.  Granted, I'd like her to run and get shot down hard.

Well, you'll have a long line of conservative talk radio folks who do Not want her to run.
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« Reply #24: January 08, 2011, 08:29:58 pm »

Well, you'll have a long line of conservative talk radio folks who do Not want her to run.

Yeah. She won't do the GOP any favors if she does.

My thinking is she won't. She wants money too badly.
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« Reply #25: January 08, 2011, 10:40:37 pm »

"Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head by a gunman at a public event on Saturday. There are conflicting reports about whether she was killed."


http://www.npr.org/2011/01/08/132764367/congresswoman-shot-in-arizona

Heard speculation that the target was the Federal Judge. Apparently he'd been under protective detail for some time.
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« Reply #26: January 08, 2011, 11:09:32 pm »

Heard speculation that the target was the Federal Judge. Apparently he'd been under protective detail for some time.

I think he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, perhaps. Then again, what you read might be more accurate than what I just saw where the Pima County Sheriff's Office was saying Giffords was the target.

Neither one would surprise me. He made some unpopular immigration rulings and her office was vandalized after she voted for Obamacare.
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« Reply #27: January 08, 2011, 11:20:17 pm »

I think he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, perhaps. Then again, what you read might be more accurate than what I just saw where the Pima County Sheriff's Office was saying Giffords was the target.

Neither one would surprise me. He made some unpopular immigration rulings and her office was vandalized after she voted for Obamacare.

Gifford has also been on conservative side regards immigration. Painting this as a right wing kook is going to be hard. From what I've seen (and I have Not bothered to watch the YouTube videos) he's a plain kook. Neither left or right, just plain crazy. He likes both the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.
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« Reply #28: January 09, 2011, 01:29:35 am »


He likes both the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

Not to make light, but that is an interesting combination...
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« Reply #29: January 09, 2011, 01:37:05 am »

Gifford has also been on conservative side regards immigration. Painting this as a right wing kook is going to be hard. From what I've seen (and I have Not bothered to watch the YouTube videos) he's a plain kook. Neither left or right, just plain crazy. He likes both the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

What's really hurting my heart is the 9 yo girl who was killed there as well. Reports say that her uncle, I believe brought her there because she was recently elected her class president and she thought the experience would be interesting. My prayers for all those affected.
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