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« Topic Start: January 22, 2011, 02:49:46 am »

I prefer Egyptian deities above others, but there are a couple Greek ones I'm fond of too. Do they get along? I think I remember some things about them being similar or that Isis is the Greek's version/view of Aset or something.

Another question: what do you guys think of Aset/Isis? Do you believe they are the same goddess? Two seperate ones? That she was originally Aset, but later morphed into Isis?
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« Reply #1: January 22, 2011, 03:37:50 am »

I prefer Egyptian deities above others, but there are a couple Greek ones I'm fond of too. Do they get along? I think I remember some things about them being similar or that Isis is the Greek's version/view of Aset or something.

I have Hades as a Patron, but I follow Neith as well. Their areas of influence don't clash at all and they don't seem (to me, at least) to have any problems at all, but I couldn't say how other combinations would or wouldn't work.
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« Reply #2: January 22, 2011, 10:17:35 am »

I prefer Egyptian deities above others, but there are a couple Greek ones I'm fond of too. Do they get along? I think I remember some things about them being similar or that Isis is the Greek's version/view of Aset or something.

At one point, the Greeks adopted the Egyptian deities into their own pantheon, associating certain Gods and Goddesses with their own (Anpu and Hermes, for instance). There's more information at http://neosalexandria.org if you're interested, though I'm not sure if there are better websites. Either way, combining the two pantheons is totally doable!

Another question: what do you guys think of Aset/Isis? Do you believe they are the same goddess? Two seperate ones? That she was originally Aset, but later morphed into Isis?

As a hard polytheist, I view Aset and Isis as two different deities. I'm not a devotee of either of Them, nor have I done much research, so I can't delve into details, but Aset to me seems much fiercer and more queenly, whereas Isis seems to be a benevolent, nourishing mother to all.
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« Reply #3: January 22, 2011, 10:35:40 am »

I prefer Egyptian deities above others, but there are a couple Greek ones I'm fond of too. Do they get along? I think I remember some things about them being similar or that Isis is the Greek's version/view of Aset or something.

Another question: what do you guys think of Aset/Isis? Do you believe they are the same goddess? Two seperate ones? That she was originally Aset, but later morphed into Isis?

I follow both pantheons, and I don't see it as a problem. Popular names of Egyptian deities, like Isis, Hathor, Osiris, Horus, and so on, are all Greek versions of the names. Modern Egyptologists have different versions of the names, but as the ancient Egyptian language had no vowels, no one really knows how they were pronounced. Anyway, the reason Egyptian gods have names in the Greek language is because there was a great deal of exchange between the two cultures, and syncretism in their religious ideas.

Regarding Isis, I personally think she and Aset are the same goddess . The Greeks had a different understanding of her according to their culture, in contrast to how Egyptians understood her from their cultural lens. A different cultural interpretation of a divinity does not mean a new deity altogether. Still, if people want to view them as separate, I don't think it's a problem.
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« Reply #4: January 22, 2011, 10:49:22 am »


I would say that if any of the Greek and Egyptian deities don't get along, it's a matter of personality, not a clashing of the overall cultures. In antiquity there was quite a bit of syncreticism, as other posters have mentioned. I don't know the link offhand, but Neos Alexandria might be a good resource for you if you're looking at working with both pantheons and want it to go smoothly. I personally have four Greek and four Egyptian deities in my thematic pantheon, and there does not seem to be any issues.

As for Aset and Isis- I am inclined to believe that at one time, they were the same deity; Isis was simply the Greek name for Aset, as Hathor is for Hetharu, Osiris for Wesir, etcetera. However, as Isis' cult spread through the Mediterranean, I believe that she developed into her own entity, distinct from Aset, as Isis' personality and associations are considerably different than Aset's.
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« Reply #5: January 22, 2011, 11:55:32 am »

Another question: what do you guys think of Aset/Isis? Do you believe they are the same goddess? Two seperate ones? That she was originally Aset, but later morphed into Isis?

I am a hard polytheist, as Firaza is, and I do not believe them to be the same entity. The Greek versions of the Egyptian gods are more... watered down, I feel.

SetAset would be the best person to speak to about the differences between Isis and Aset, however.
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« Reply #6: January 22, 2011, 05:31:09 pm »

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« Reply #7: January 22, 2011, 07:27:13 pm »

I prefer Egyptian deities above others, but there are a couple Greek ones I'm fond of too. Do they get along? I think I remember some things about them being similar or that Isis is the Greek's version/view of Aset or something.

Another question: what do you guys think of Aset/Isis? Do you believe they are the same goddess? Two seperate ones? That she was originally Aset, but later morphed into Isis?

As others have stated Neos Alexandria can help you with the Egyptian and Greek syncretism if that's where you're wanting to go. 

I personally view Aset and Isis as separate deities. 
The main differences between Aset and Isis are both their personalities and historical attributes that were given to each goddess.

Aset is determined, ruthless and cunning. She's more a trickster, a sorceress and a shapeshifter. She's the Mother of the King, a mourner, a psychopomp, and the Mistress of Magic. She is a deity of with solar attributes as both a goddess of the sunrise and an Eye of Ra cobra.  She's the goddess of the Nile river rather than the sea.  As far as I know Aset had nothing to do with the institution of  marriage. In Kemet, Ma'at was the goddess over cosmic order and law; Judges were known as Priests of Ma'at.  Like all Kemetic gods, Aset helped to uphold the cosmic order.  Aset also has many theophanies (sacred animals): kite, cobra, female vulture, falcon, lioness, female leopard, cow, sow, female hippo, scorpion, etc. which show a part of her nature. I don't think the ancient Romans were as "animal happy" as the ancient Egyptians were. :-)

Isis is more the Mother of All, compassionate, emphasis was put on her Sorrowful Wife and Mother aspects and she was accessible to many devotees. Aset tends to be more particular about who She considers Hers. Isis grabbed hold of many Greek and especially Roman attributes. In Rome, where Isis was worshiped, her statues are in Roman garb rather than her Egyptian visage. She was a goddess of the moon, sea, law and marriage among many other things.
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