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« Topic Start: January 31, 2011, 10:03:51 pm »

(Sorry if this has already been thoroughly answered; I had no idea how to search for this one, and I couldn't find a recent thread with this question.)

I'm getting ready to head off to a university in a few months. This is surprisingly freeing for me spiritually in most aspects; I'm rooming with my best friend, who is an agnostic Stoic with a fondness for Hermes, which leads to many entertaining discussions to say the least. My problem, actually, is one of my deities. I currently worship/work with three deities. One is Hermes, who is just REALLY EXCITED to be traveling to a huge (party) school. Another is a sky goddess, who...doesn't really care that I'm moving because she is, well, in the sky and thus pretty universal.

The third one is the problem. This boy is a harvest god, probably specifically a wheat god. I only know him because I have a mini wheat field in my backyard that he has decided to live in. We have a very strange relationship; I do not know his name or origin, as it has never been important before, but I make offerings to him and watch over his wheat, and he in turns guides me on some very important things. He is extremely land-based and chthonic; he likes food offerings, and he likes them buried in his soil. However, now that I'm moving, I feel that it will be difficult to keep worshiping him. I have no resources whatsoever except UPG, and my university is in a big city with no wheat fields. He has made it clear that he isn't a land spirit tied to my backyard, so he is willing to come with me.

Do you all have any ideas on how to continue worshiping an obscure harvest god who is very much obsessed with his own cycles of death and rebirth? How exactly do you take a land god with you to a new area? I'm going to try and squeeze some information out of him over the next few months, but he is very much the i'd-rather-watch-you-struggle-for-my-own-amusement kind of guy. So far, my only ideas have been to put a bunch of wheat in a box and take it with me, or to keep a pot of soil in my room and...yeah. I don't even know what I'd do with that. He is very patient and can tolerate me simply saying thanks and whatnot, but it is hard to not do physical things for such a physical god. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #1: January 31, 2011, 10:24:56 pm »

(Sorry if this has already been thoroughly answered; I had no idea how to search for this one, and I couldn't find a recent thread with this question.)

 So far, my only ideas have been to put a bunch of wheat in a box and take it with me, or to keep a pot of soil in my room and...yeah. I don't even know what I'd do with that. He is very patient and can tolerate me simply saying thanks and whatnot, but it is hard to not do physical things for such a physical god. Any thoughts?

Are you allowed to have potted plants in your dorm? If so ask him for guidance to a plant in his field or in a nursery you can purchase. I understand the fact that life cycle are very important to him so maybe small pot with some seeds or maybe herbs?  That way there is land and life in your dorm room that is solely for him and you can easily manage to cultivate the plants in his honor. That could be a direction to ask him about.

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« Reply #2: January 31, 2011, 11:19:40 pm »

Are you allowed to have potted plants in your dorm? If so ask him for guidance to a plant in his field or in a nursery you can purchase. I understand the fact that life cycle are very important to him so maybe small pot with some seeds or maybe herbs?  That way there is land and life in your dorm room that is solely for him and you can easily manage to cultivate the plants in his honor. That could be a direction to ask him about.

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See, I dismissed having a plant in my dorm because I'm about 95% sure my residence hall considers plants some sort of health hazard, but now I can't remember where I saw any guidelines online about them specifically, so I'm not sure. Ideally, I would love to have some sort of plant for him, because that is logical and would make him very happy. I just attempted a futile half-hour search of housing documents and learned nothing except that I can't have a toaster or shelves, but I can have a fish =/. But maybe I can have a plant, since apparently I can receive florist deliveries?

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely have to ask about that again! (And if I can have a plant, I'll ask him about it like you said, because I refuse to grow five foot-tall wheat blades next to my bed!)
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« Reply #3: January 31, 2011, 11:23:48 pm »

See, I dismissed having a plant in my dorm because I'm about 95% sure my residence hall considers plants some sort of health hazard, but now I can't remember where I saw any guidelines online about them specifically, so I'm not sure. Ideally, I would love to have some sort of plant for him, because that is logical and would make him very happy. I just attempted a futile half-hour search of housing documents and learned nothing except that I can't have a toaster or shelves, but I can have a fish =/. But maybe I can have a plant, since apparently I can receive florist deliveries?

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely have to ask about that again! (And if I can have a plant, I'll ask him about it like you said, because I refuse to grow five foot-tall wheat blades next to my bed!)

If you can't have a plant in your room you might see if you can bring some soil from his wheat plot and place it outside near your dorm or just keep it near you.
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« Reply #4: January 31, 2011, 11:31:54 pm »


My thought? Harvest some of the wheat seeds and put them in a bottle. Plant some when you get to your dorm. Grow the seeds like a mini wheat field, harvest it, then mix the old seeds with the new. Plant some of the kernels again and repeat. You could even grind some of it for sacred flour, if you were so inclined.
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« Reply #5: February 01, 2011, 10:01:50 am »

The third one is the problem. This boy is a harvest god, probably specifically a wheat god. I only know him because I have a mini wheat field in my backyard that he has decided to live in. We have a very strange relationship; I do not know his name or origin, as it has never been important before, but I make offerings to him and watch over his wheat, and he in turns guides me on some very important things. He is extremely land-based and chthonic; he likes food offerings, and he likes them buried in his soil. However, now that I'm moving, I feel that it will be difficult to keep worshiping him. I have no resources whatsoever except UPG, and my university is in a big city with no wheat fields. He has made it clear that he isn't a land spirit tied to my backyard, so he is willing to come with me.

Do you all have any ideas on how to continue worshiping an obscure harvest god who is very much obsessed with his own cycles of death and rebirth? How exactly do you take a land god with you to a new area? I'm going to try and squeeze some information out of him over the next few months, but he is very much the i'd-rather-watch-you-struggle-for-my-own-amusement kind of guy. So far, my only ideas have been to put a bunch of wheat in a box and take it with me, or to keep a pot of soil in my room and...yeah. I don't even know what I'd do with that. He is very patient and can tolerate me simply saying thanks and whatnot, but it is hard to not do physical things for such a physical god. Any thoughts?
Wheatgrass is basically just young wheat, and can be grown indoors for juicing and human consumption. It's a relatively common plant and shouldn't cause you any problems to have a small pot in your dorm room.
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« Reply #6: February 01, 2011, 05:01:03 pm »

(Sorry if this has already been thoroughly answered; I had no idea how to search for this one, and I couldn't find a recent thread with this question.)

I'm getting ready to head off to a university in a few months. This is surprisingly freeing for me spiritually in most aspects; I'm rooming with my best friend, who is an agnostic Stoic with a fondness for Hermes, which leads to many entertaining discussions to say the least. My problem, actually, is one of my deities. I currently worship/work with three deities. One is Hermes, who is just REALLY EXCITED to be traveling to a huge (party) school. Another is a sky goddess, who...doesn't really care that I'm moving because she is, well, in the sky and thus pretty universal.

The third one is the problem. This boy is a harvest god, probably specifically a wheat god. I only know him because I have a mini wheat field in my backyard that he has decided to live in. We have a very strange relationship; I do not know his name or origin, as it has never been important before, but I make offerings to him and watch over his wheat, and he in turns guides me on some very important things. He is extremely land-based and chthonic; he likes food offerings, and he likes them buried in his soil. However, now that I'm moving, I feel that it will be difficult to keep worshiping him. I have no resources whatsoever except UPG, and my university is in a big city with no wheat fields. He has made it clear that he isn't a land spirit tied to my backyard, so he is willing to come with me.

Do you all have any ideas on how to continue worshiping an obscure harvest god who is very much obsessed with his own cycles of death and rebirth? How exactly do you take a land god with you to a new area? I'm going to try and squeeze some information out of him over the next few months, but he is very much the i'd-rather-watch-you-struggle-for-my-own-amusement kind of guy. So far, my only ideas have been to put a bunch of wheat in a box and take it with me, or to keep a pot of soil in my room and...yeah. I don't even know what I'd do with that. He is very patient and can tolerate me simply saying thanks and whatnot, but it is hard to not do physical things for such a physical god. Any thoughts?

Why not also bury something of yourself in his field, like your hair or some blood or something like that, to connect you to him?
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« Reply #7: February 01, 2011, 05:11:22 pm »

Wheatgrass is basically just young wheat, and can be grown indoors for juicing and human consumption. It's a relatively common plant and shouldn't cause you any problems to have a small pot in your dorm room.

Hmm I thought of this as well but wasn't sure if wheatgrass was actually related to wheat or just given a similar name to make it more familiar to consumers. Either way it may be easier to argue for having a wheatgrass plot in your room vs. an actual potted plant as one could make an argument for wheatgrass being a food.
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« Reply #8: February 01, 2011, 08:25:14 pm »

(Sorry if this has already been thoroughly answered; I had no idea how to search for this one, and I couldn't find a recent thread with this question.)

What about making something similar to a 'witch bottle'? You could find a glass bottle or jar that you're particularly fond of, add some wheat from the field in your backyard (and anything else you think he might like / or that you feel represents him), then seal it up and keep it in your dorm. Maybe light a candle (or use an electric one depending on the rules of the dorm) on occasion to let him know that he's important to you wherever you are. Just a thought... Grin
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« Reply #9: February 01, 2011, 11:46:26 pm »

Wheatgrass is basically just young wheat, and can be grown indoors for juicing and human consumption. It's a relatively common plant and shouldn't cause you any problems to have a small pot in your dorm room.

Darkmoondog's list of ways to worship the Wheat/Harvest God-
1.Terrarium.
2. Weave a Brigid's Cross with wheat stalks.
3. Relocate your deity to a fruit bearing tree to care for on campus.
4. Study or volunteer in the biology department.
5. Eat a wheat based token of respect in honor of your deity.
6. Acts of random planting.
7. Keep a fruit or nuts on your altar.
8. Shave your head and wear a wheat woven skirt. ( Just kidding.) Please don't do that.
9. Meditate and wait for inspiration.
10. Have a great going away party at your current wheat field.
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« Reply #10: February 02, 2011, 09:33:07 am »

Do you all have any ideas on how to continue worshiping an obscure harvest god who is very much obsessed with his own cycles of death and rebirth? How exactly do you take a land god with you to a new area?

If he is a deity tied to a particular area, you may not be able to. Some "minor" deities are so tied and all one can do is look for a similar deity in one's new home.
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If he is a deity tied to a particular area, you may not be able to. Some "minor" deities are so tied and all one can do is look for a similar deity in one's new home.

Or, you'll get a version that is not quite the same as the god from the old place (An example I think for this would be Cailleach, as her demeanor and appearance could or did change depending on the area you found her in. They would be the same, in a lot of ways, but still.. different.).
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