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« Reply #15: February 10, 2011, 12:03:55 pm »

...apparently he's pretty happy with whatever you come up with to say to him,so long as you get the offerings right and the offerings can be apparently simply a brisk splash/rinse of water on his head(stone) in the morning. as an example.

thanks for all your answers.

A splash of water with a prayer on a routine basis makes an excellent offering - it is non-permanent and needs to be redone.

I want to further explain something I said in an earlier post, as I think my phrasing might have been a little confusing:

I tend to break down offerings into three categories: those consumed, those collected, and those "done in honor of":

- Those consumed: food/drink offerings, incense, flame.  These are meant to be consumed by the deity.  The point of a consumable offering (IMO) is that the deity consumes it and it therefore becomes "used".  The remains of these "Used" offerings are removed after the deity is finished with them; they no longer have use.

- Those collected: jewelry, live plants, figurines, etc.  These are meant to be given to the deity and remain on the altar/shrine, etc. indefinitely.  They are not consumed, and their use is continual.

- Those "done in honor of": community service, daily work, etc.  These are actions we do away from the altar that honor deity.  F'ex, someone honoring Seshat might volunteer at a library once a week.  Many people honor deity every day through their career.
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In my case, I do the following:

Those consumed: food and drink offered are consumed by me once deity is finished with them.  I say a prayer hand to revert the offerings back to me.  Incense is fully consumed by the fire; candles are left to burn until they go out, at which time the remnants are thrown away.

Those collected: jewelry is worn by the statues of my gods or, if no statue, worn by their offering dish.  Live plants remain on the altar until their life cycle is complete.

Those "done in honor of": my every day work is in health care, which honors Sekhmet.  I am planning to volunteer for a crime victims hotline, which will also honor Her.
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How each individual uses these categories of offering, if they even use all of them, varies...but to my mind if you and you gods have an agreement and they are happy with what you do, that is the important bit. 

I hope that helps!
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« Reply #16: February 10, 2011, 12:13:01 pm »


Thank you for writing that, veggiewolf. It was enlightening!

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« Reply #17: February 10, 2011, 12:43:44 pm »

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I ordered my palm oil from Azuregreen online (or maybe through their catalog) some years back and I still have plenty of it left over. If you can find a botanica nearby, they typically carry it too.
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« Reply #18: February 10, 2011, 02:41:07 pm »

I ordered my palm oil from Azuregreen online (or maybe through their catalog) some years back and I still have plenty of it left over. If you can find a botanica nearby, they typically carry it too.
yes I've been searching the online yellow pages for my area. Smiley

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« Reply #19: February 11, 2011, 09:53:43 am »

- Those collected: jewelry, live plants, figurines, etc.  These are meant to be given to the deity and remain on the altar/shrine, etc. indefinitely.  They are not consumed, and their use is continual.

That's not always the case. I have jewelry given to both my deities. I had a small ring of carnelian that I had bought to give to Sekhmet. Recently, she has demanded that I wear it with the tiger's eye pendant I bought for her years ago. So, it's possible that something you have given to your gods (plant, jewelry, figurines, a decorative bowl, etc.) can be re-claimed at some later date in time. I'm not saying that this is always the case. It just can happen.

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« Reply #20: February 12, 2011, 06:42:57 pm »

That's not always the case. I have jewelry given to both my deities. I had a small ring of carnelian that I had bought to give to Sekhmet. Recently, she has demanded that I wear it with the tiger's eye pendant I bought for her years ago. So, it's possible that something you have given to your gods (plant, jewelry, figurines, a decorative bowl, etc.) can be re-claimed at some later date in time. I'm not saying that this is always the case. It just can happen.

True, and I probably should have stipulated that just because I intend the jewelry offerings to remain with deity doesn't mean they have to keep them.   Wink
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« Reply #21: June 25, 2011, 02:43:31 am »

I wish I could do that.  I'm sure Ausir would love some plants on his shrine.

Unfortunately my cats eat any and all plants.   I don't know where I could keep them same except for inside the shrine.  I think they only thing green that will grow in the dark is fungus. 

Somehow fungus doesn't seem like an appropriate offering  Tongue

Do you mean growing it in his shrine space wouldn't be appropriate, or offering fungii in general? Why do you think offering say for example mushrooms, wouldn't be appropriate to offer to Ausir? Just curious. Smiley
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« Reply #22: June 25, 2011, 12:44:32 pm »

Do you mean growing it in his shrine space wouldn't be appropriate, or offering fungii in general? Why do you think offering say for example mushrooms, wouldn't be appropriate to offer to Ausir? Just curious. Smiley

I was making a joke rather than speculating on the appropriateness of fungus as an offering.  Of course I  wasn't thinking about fungus as in mushrooms, or any fungus that is deliberately cultivated.  I meant the sort that grows on food  if its left to its own devices   Tongue   I was saying this was the only "green" thing that would grow in the dark of a shrine cabinet, and that this wouldn't be appropriate. 

Of course edible mushrooms might be different.  That's not exactly the same thing as offering fuzzy food.  Actually, that seems to make sense given that they grow in dark, sometimes underground places.  One could make an argument for that being a good representation of the Duat.  I googled around a bit for this and found some 'shrooms being grown in an abandoned railroad tunnel that has been re-purposed: http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/mushroom-tunnel-of-mittagong.html.  It's kinda neat how they did that.  The fact that they essentially grow on decaying matter makes them a good symbol of death and regeneration.

Now, if only I liked mushrooms.   Cheesy
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« Reply #23: June 25, 2011, 12:52:24 pm »

Do you mean growing it in his shrine space wouldn't be appropriate, or offering fungii in general? Why do you think offering say for example mushrooms, wouldn't be appropriate to offer to Ausir? Just curious. Smiley

I'm going to be getting a smaller Kar shrine soon where I can keep just his statue by itself.   So, any ideas about growing things inside the shrine probably don't make much sense. It seems like home mushroom kits take up a lot of space anyway.  One thing I thought about was to put some hanging plants above the shrine area.  If the shrine isn't so dang big, there would be room for those.  If they're hung high enough, The cats can't get to them.  If I get plants that don't require tons of sun and keep my windows open during the day, the plants should be OK.   Smiley   It might be interesting to see which herbs don't need a lot of light.  Then I can use them in cooking and have a direct relationship with the plants I'm offering.  
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« Reply #24: June 25, 2011, 12:57:16 pm »



I grew mushrooms at home in middle school for my science fair project- something about the natural formation of fairy rings, I think- and it doesn't take much room if you don't want it to. All you need is appropriate soil in a container and some spores- you could easily buy a mushroom kit and just use your own planter and the amount of soil to fill it. Just a thought. Smiley
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« Reply #25: June 25, 2011, 01:38:23 pm »

I grew mushrooms at home in middle school for my science fair project- something about the natural formation of fairy rings, I think- and it doesn't take much room if you don't want it to. All you need is appropriate soil in a container and some spores- you could easily buy a mushroom kit and just use your own planter and the amount of soil to fill it. Just a thought. Smiley

Good to know.  Maybe I'm making this out to be harder than it is Smiley

I wonder if the ancients had mushrooms?  I'd suspect it would have been hard to grow them in A.E. given the climate.  They seem  completely appropriate now, though, esp if they're good mushrooms.  Maybe if Ausir decides he wants mushrooms I'll have to acquire a taste for them.  
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« Reply #26: June 25, 2011, 05:44:50 pm »

I was making a joke rather than speculating on the appropriateness of fungus as an offering.  Of course I  wasn't thinking about fungus as in mushrooms, or any fungus that is deliberately cultivated.  I meant the sort that grows on food  if its left to its own devices   Tongue   I was saying this was the only "green" thing that would grow in the dark of a shrine cabinet, and that this wouldn't be appropriate. 

Ahh, okay. Completely understand now! Cheesy
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« Reply #27: June 25, 2011, 11:54:40 pm »


Another thing I've thought about doing for Him is making "seed mummies", instead of corn mummies.   They could be made out of the same material that people use for "seed balls", which re-vegitate barren land.

http://survivalscoop.blogspot.com/2009/06/seed-balls-nature-at-work.html

They'd be mummy shaped, of course.  They'd have to be bigger than traditional seed balls to get a real mummy shape but they would still be fairly small. Otherwise, I'd imagine the rain won't get to all the seeds. 

I could fill them with veggie seeds and give them to friends for their gardens.  Or I could fill them with native seeds and put them in places that needed a little extra greenness.  I'd probably make them during the Mysteries of Ausir and then keep until the weather got warmer. 
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