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« Topic Start: February 18, 2011, 07:10:38 pm »

Does anyone here practice the Religio Romana? I know this is for hellenismos practitioners, but I thought there might be some practitioners of the Religio here as well. I'm feeling drawn towards the Religio now, but I am also reluctant to give up the Sumerian deities of which I have become so fond. I was thinking someone here could help me find a Roman Shamash (possibly Sol Invictus, I am quite fond of him) or some info on the divus'.

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« Reply #1: February 18, 2011, 11:39:10 pm »

Does anyone here practice the Religio Romana? I know this is for hellenismos practitioners, but I thought there might be some practitioners of the Religio here as well. I'm feeling drawn towards the Religio now, but I am also reluctant to give up the Sumerian deities of which I have become so fond. I was thinking someone here could help me find a Roman Shamash (possibly Sol Invictus, I am quite fond of him) or some info on the divus'.

Thanks! Smiley

There's no reason for you to have to give up your Sumerian contacts. Are you interesting in practicing Roman religion, or worshiping Roman deities? For either, I suggest Nova Roma as a good place to start research.
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« Reply #2: February 19, 2011, 07:30:59 am »

Does anyone here practice the Religio Romana? I know this is for hellenismos practitioners, but I thought there might be some practitioners of the Religio here as well.
There are a very, very few RR folks on TC, nowhere near enough to justify a RR SIG, so discussions about it have usually landed here in Ta Hiera.  Heliocoptero is the only currently-active RR AFAIK; if he doesn't spot this thread on his own, I'll drop him a PM.

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« Reply #3: February 19, 2011, 08:41:18 am »

Does anyone here practice the Religio Romana? I know this is for hellenismos practitioners, but I thought there might be some practitioners of the Religio here as well. I'm feeling drawn towards the Religio now, but I am also reluctant to give up the Sumerian deities of which I have become so fond. I was thinking someone here could help me find a Roman Shamash (possibly Sol Invictus, I am quite fond of him) or some info on the divus'.

Thanks! Smiley

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I see no reason why you shouldn't keep worshiping the Sumerian gods you're close to. I myself moved into the the religio after several years as a heathen and brought Frey with me, so to speak, and He remains firm in my religious life as a Roman pagan, so you can do the same with Sumerian deities, with or without syncretising Them. Take religion as an open thing where there's no limit to the number of gods and no demand for exclusive worship of a single pantheon (unless you take a personal oath!). Romans themselves adopted the foreign cults and included non-Roman deities in their individual or official pantheons: Isis, Serapis, Epona, Cybele (even if the latter was seen as an ancestor of sorts). Unlike what centuries of Christian indoctrination have taught us, religion is not a question of either-or (either this god or that, this pantheon or that).

This can be confusing in terms of identity, so, if it helps, here is something I wrote about it. Ask yourself which community is yours.

And what divus are you interested in?

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« Reply #4: February 22, 2011, 09:24:59 am »


Thanks for this post. I really want to find a way to syncretize Shamah into the Roman pantheon, because I'm considering taking a priesthood initiate program in Nova Roma, I'm not planning on becoming a priest (atleast, not yet), but I want a solid theological base in the Religio. And I'm most interested in the Divus Augustus, but I've also heard tales of Iulian the Blessed being deified, so I'll have to check that out.
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« Reply #5: February 22, 2011, 09:53:06 am »

Thanks for this post. I really want to find a way to syncretize Shamah into the Roman pantheon, because I'm considering taking a priesthood initiate program in Nova Roma, I'm not planning on becoming a priest (atleast, not yet), but I want a solid theological base in the Religio. And I'm most interested in the Divus Augustus, but I've also heard tales of Iulian the Blessed being deified, so I'll have to check that out.

For a theological study, and assuming that people in Nova Roma haven't given you these references yet (they're bound to), I suggest you start with Cicero's Nature of the Gods and Cato's On agriculture. It's not that they are a theological authority - Roman religion was and is, after all, one with no orthodoxy - but they are a window to the beliefs held by at least some in Ancient Rome and include parts of rituals, too (namely Cato's work). You might also want to toss in some introductory works: John Scheid's Introduction to Roman religion, coupled with both volumes of the Religions of Rome by Mary Bead, John North and Simon Price are an excellent starting point.
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« Reply #6: February 22, 2011, 10:28:36 am »

For a theological study, and assuming that people in Nova Roma haven't given you these references yet (they're bound to), I suggest you start with Cicero's Nature of the Gods and Cato's On agriculture. It's not that they are a theological authority - Roman religion was and is, after all, one with no orthodoxy - but they are a window to the beliefs held by at least some in Ancient Rome and include parts of rituals, too (namely Cato's work). You might also want to toss in some introductory works: John Scheid's Introduction to Roman religion, coupled with both volumes of the Religions of Rome by Mary Bead, John North and Simon Price are an excellent starting point.

I found Nature of the Gods, but On Agriculture is hard to find, and the others you suggested look good but Amazon is apparently is trying to run an extortion racket. Thanks for the suggestions.
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« Reply #7: February 23, 2011, 12:17:50 pm »

I found Nature of the Gods, but On Agriculture is hard to find, and the others you suggested look good but Amazon is apparently is trying to run an extortion racket. Thanks for the suggestions.

Don't know if I'm adding something you already know, but Cato's Agriculture can be found online here, in both the Latin original and English translation. The same website also has other texts, plus entries on temple that are a useful resource.

As for the other books, yeah, they can be expensive. I suggest you keep a lookout for second hand editions sold through Amazon, as occasionally some very good deals pop up. I bought my John Sheid that way and it arrived very well preserved.

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« Reply #8: February 26, 2011, 06:39:42 pm »


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Well, I've been denied membership within Nova Roma due to age. Farewell Camilia Program. I'm going to continue research into the Divus', but I can quit with my research into a Roman Shamash, as I've decided I'm quite comfortable with my current pantheon for the most part.
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« Reply #9: February 27, 2011, 11:23:47 am »


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Well, I've been denied membership within Nova Roma due to age. Farewell Camilia Program. I'm going to continue research into the Divus', but I can quit with my research into a Roman Shamash, as I've decided I'm quite comfortable with my current pantheon for the most part.
I didn't know Nova Roma had an age requirement...?
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« Reply #10: February 27, 2011, 11:36:18 am »

I didn't know Nova Roma had an age requirement...?

It would surprise me more if they didn't.  Most of these groups wouldn't let minors join due to legal reasons.
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I didn't know Nova Roma had an age requirement...?

Most ethical religious groups do. Dealing with minor children is a legal problem waiting to happen.
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« Reply #12: February 27, 2011, 11:49:39 am »

Most ethical religious groups do. Dealing with minor children is a legal problem waiting to happen.


That makes sense - I guess because I've been a solitary practitioner for so long I forget to stop and think about group requirements.
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« Reply #13: February 27, 2011, 12:59:15 pm »

That makes sense - I guess because I've been a solitary practitioner for so long I forget to stop and think about group requirements.

It's an unfortunate fact of life. I had thought I would just need a parents approval like it was some time ago, but they changed it.
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« Reply #14: February 27, 2011, 01:07:13 pm »

It's an unfortunate fact of life. I had thought I would just need a parents approval like it was some time ago, but they changed it.

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