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« Reply #15: March 12, 2011, 10:21:50 pm »

(Not replying to you here so much as your post is a convenient place to hang my own reply.)

I'd also point out that there are no "requirements" as such, nothing you're "supposed to" do.  That would seem to imply some central authority determining what constitutes Hellenic polytheism, and...  There's kind of not one.  There are organizations like Hellenion that will have their own definitions and suggestions, but they don't have any control over Hellenic polytheism at large.  People may have their own ideas about how best to approach it, but again, that doesn't mean that if you do something different you're doing it wrong.

Which is partly because "Hellenic polytheism" isn't *a* religion, to being with.  It's a kind of vague way of referring to a religious approach that focuses on the Greek pantheon.  That could really mean a lot of things.  I think the thread has been trending in the direction of a path with historical basis, but I'm not sure that "Hellenic polytheism" necessarily has to mean that.  Polytheism is just a belief in many gods, you know?

I agree with you, although I think that the "Hellenic" label does have implications about following a culturally specific system, even if it's not to the extent of complete reconstructionism. What I mean is, it wouldn't be Hellenic polytheism if Artemis was being honoured by a Norse blot, or if Hermes was called into a Wiccan circle. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with those practices, it would just be a different system that is incorporating Greek gods rather than one that is Hellenic. That said, I agree there is no central authority or prescribed method of practice or belief, but I think if a person calls him/herself Hellenic, it implies an adherence to Greek culture to some degree.
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« Reply #16: March 14, 2011, 07:06:32 am »

I agree with you, although I think that the "Hellenic" label does have implications about following a culturally specific system, even if it's not to the extent of complete reconstructionism. What I mean is, it wouldn't be Hellenic polytheism if Artemis was being honoured by a Norse blot, or if Hermes was called into a Wiccan circle. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with those practices, it would just be a different system that is incorporating Greek gods rather than one that is Hellenic. That said, I agree there is no central authority or prescribed method of practice or belief, but I think if a person calls him/herself Hellenic, it implies an adherence to Greek culture to some degree.

Agreed.
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« Reply #17: March 14, 2011, 08:04:30 am »

What I mean is, it wouldn't be Hellenic polytheism if Artemis was being honoured by a Norse blot, or if Hermes was called into a Wiccan circle.

I'm not going to argue the Norse blot, certainly.  I thought there was such a thing as Hellenic Wicca, though--honoring the Greek gods using a Wiccan framework.  I thought I had also seen more eclectic and personal approaches to the Greek pantheon labeled Hellenic, although I may be remembering wrong.

One ritual (which is what you seem to be talking about here) wouldn't do it, no.  A whole, cohesive practice that honors the Hellenic pantheon might not necessarily draw on specifically Greek traditions, though.  Such a practice should not be confused with Hellenism or Hellenismos, but that doesn't mean that the term "Hellenic" doesn't apply.
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« Reply #18: March 14, 2011, 08:05:51 am »

I'm not going to argue the Norse blot, certainly.  I thought there was such a thing as Hellenic Wicca, though--honoring the Greek gods using a Wiccan framework. 

Yes, there is a Hellenic Wicca. I don't think it is nearly as common today as in was in the late 1960s and the 1970s.
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« Reply #19: March 14, 2011, 06:49:48 pm »

I'm not going to argue the Norse blot, certainly.  I thought there was such a thing as Hellenic Wicca, though--honoring the Greek gods using a Wiccan framework.  I thought I had also seen more eclectic and personal approaches to the Greek pantheon labeled Hellenic, although I may be remembering wrong.

One ritual (which is what you seem to be talking about here) wouldn't do it, no.  A whole, cohesive practice that honors the Hellenic pantheon might not necessarily draw on specifically Greek traditions, though.  Such a practice should not be confused with Hellenism or Hellenismos, but that doesn't mean that the term "Hellenic" doesn't apply.

Hmm, I have heard of Hellenic Wicca. Maybe if Wicca was "Hellenized" in that way it could be considered Hellenic, which might be possible. I think Garnder favoured the Mediterranean pagan traditions, so there are a lot of similarities. Doreen Valiente was apparently the one who added the Celtic aspects. Anyway, yes, Hellenic Wicca might suit the Hellenic label, in my earlier post I just meant honouring Greek gods in a typical non-Hellenized Wiccan setting doesn't automatically make a person Hellenic Smiley
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« Reply #20: March 15, 2011, 08:11:57 am »

Hmm, I have heard of Hellenic Wicca. Maybe if Wicca was "Hellenized" in that way it could be considered Hellenic, which might be possible.

I'm not sure how Hellenized it was as I've never had the chance to talk to anyone who practiced it.
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