Sad time for Northern Ireland

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[RainDrop]

Just as Northern Ireland is trying to get over the troubles, this happens:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12947225

Such a sad time for this policeman's family.  Killed just because he was a Catholic working for the Police Service of Northern Ireland.  How petty some people can be.  Unfortunately there are a few people who wish to bring us back to the days of the troubles.  Except, instead of tearing NI apart, as they hope to do, these people are actually bringing both sides together.  Uniting them in their grief.  No one in Northern Ireland wishes to go back to the horrible times of the troubles (and thank goodness I wasn't there to experience them!)

Ronan Kerr's mother, instead of getting Mother's Day cards yesterday, was getting cards of condolence.  Not what a mother wishes to receive, on a special day.

May our thoughts be with the Kerr family at this sad time.
May we hope and pray that these irresponsible, and cowardly actions, of just a few individuals, will not bring Northern Ireland back to "the old days".

Sara

[RandallS]

Just as Northern Ireland is trying to get over the troubles, this happens:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12947225

There are apparently still some people in Northern Ireland who just can't live and let live. It's truly sad.

[UlsterYank]

There are apparently still some people in Northern Ireland who just can't live and let live. It's truly sad.

What's frustrating is that the PSNI know exactly who they are, and their family lines are apparent. They're bigoted sons raised in the households of former IRA terrorists, but because of the Troubles, the police service has to be super PC, and can't just go get them on intel alone.  This happened on the 2 year anniversary of the Police officer that was killed 2 years ago by the same dissidents as well. I had to drive passed closed roads because of bomb scares during my LGV driving school yesterday due to this.

[RandallS]

They're bigoted sons raised in the households of former IRA terrorists, but because of the Troubles....

::shaking head:: It's really sad that the hardliners on both sides in Northern Ireland (and similar places around the world) not only will not give up trying to shove their bigotry down everyone's throats but are raising their children to be just like them.

[Lovesdalionking]

Just as Northern Ireland is trying to get over the troubles, this happens:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12947225

0.o That's just insane. I was just in the Republic of Ireland in 2008 and they were getting over the IRA crap and whatnot, then this happens...wow.

Their family is in my prayers.

[UlsterYank]

0.o That's just insane. I was just in the Republic of Ireland in 2008 and they were getting over the IRA crap and whatnot, then this happens...wow.

Their family is in my prayers.

What a lot of people don't understand, is that the Republican dissidents hate the Republic of Ireland, and their police service the Gardaí as well. Catholic policeman up North are targeted even more because they are "traitors" that "serve the crown." Since the RUC has disbanded(where it only had a handful of fringe minority bigoted cops that brought shame to the name), the PSNI have to be super PC. Their emblem is of the neutral St. Patrick's cross, with peace symbols featuring the Harp, and the Crown. The Police officer that was shot 2 years ago wasn't even able to have a Union Jack at his funeral, even though he had prior service in the military. The officers from Nationalist&Republican neighborhoods are considered, "British collaborators" for serving. They did the same thing to Postal workers, and the fire brigade. 2 years ago when they also shot the British troops receiving a pizza delivery the night before being shipped to serve in Afghanistan. They called the Domino's pizza deliveryman, who happened to be Polish, "British collaborators", and shot them as well. There have been many foiled attempts an officer's lives, and this incident was finally one that slipped through the cracks.

The Republican terrorists including all of the IRA splinter cells are Marxists. They openly are involved with the Armed Struggle behind the Free Palestine movement, and drive passed any Republican neighborhood, all you will see is murals of the Red Flag and Che Guevara. They hate American politic's as well, but play that down when Sinn Féin visit New York to raise money. When I'm in Republican areas, which in recent times are good places to visit and rich with Irish language&culture, I have to conceal the fact that I was in the U.S Marines because I'll be looked at suspiciously, and by some considered part of the "British War Machine".

     

[Pyperlie]

The Republican terrorists including all of the IRA splinter cells are Marxists. They openly are involved with the Armed Struggle behind the Free Palestine movement, and drive passed any Republican neighborhood, all you will see is murals of the Red Flag and Che Guevara. They hate American politic's as well, but play that down when Sinn Féin visit New York to raise money. When I'm in Republican areas, which in recent times are good places to visit and rich with Irish language&culture, I have to conceal the fact that I was in the U.S Marines because I'll be looked at suspiciously, and by some considered part of the "British War Machine".

Good Lord, really?!  I had no idea there were any Marxist terrorist groups around anymore, outside SE Asia.  Dammit, why can't there be good news from commie groups?

And, you were in the Marines?  Did you move to Ireland when you got out?  Had you been stationed there or something?

[UlsterYank]

Good Lord, really?!  I had no idea there were any Marxist terrorist groups around anymore, outside SE Asia.  Dammit, why can't there be good news from commie groups?

And, you were in the Marines?  Did you move to Ireland when you got out?  Had you been stationed there or something?

Yes.  I've taken holidays to Ireland  a couple of times before. I got a job working in a warehouse after my stint in the Marines, and decided to take another holiday here after receiving a bonus, where I met my wife, and moved over a few years ago.

The two "sides" (there was never really any sides in the first place, as the majority of people have always got along, and the "sides" were usually lower class criminals from council estates. It would almost be like having America's gangs like the Bloods and Crips representing the rest of the country in international news) use political symbols. Republican terrorists like the IRA and INLA use the Palestinian and Red flag, and other communist symbols, and the Loyaslists paramilitaries like the UDA and UVF use the Israeli and American Rebel Flag. Irish Republicans hate the American military and politics because apparently we're incahoots with the British and Israeli governments to invade foreign countries, kill civilians, and take their land. The IRA have been caught training the FARC in Columbia, and The IRA's political wing, Sinn Féin, has members like Gerry Adams who are Taliban sympathizers.

[Pyperlie]

Yes.  I've taken holidays to Ireland  a couple of times before. I got a job working in a warehouse after my stint in the Marines, and decided to take another holiday here after receiving a bonus, where I met my wife, and moved over a few years ago.

Is the economic situation there as bad as it's painted in the int'l press?  Or is it even worse?

The two "sides" (there was never really any sides in the first place, as the majority of people have always got along, and the "sides" were usually lower class criminals from council estates. It would almost be like having America's gangs like the Bloods and Crips representing the rest of the country in international news) use political symbols. Republican terrorists like the IRA and INLA use the Palestinian and Red flag, and other communist symbols, and the Loyaslists paramilitaries like the UDA and UVF use the Israeli and American Rebel Flag.

Frankly, it seems very weird to me for loyalist groups to use the Stars and Bars; how on earth did that come about?

Irish Republicans hate the American military and politics because apparently we're incahoots with the British and Israeli governments to invade foreign countries, kill civilians, and take their land.

Well, in fairness a lot of people think that; you don't have to be a terrorist to think the US is conspiring with the British and Israelis.  I can certainly see how it could look that way to outsiders, and it's not as if we're not doing our best to prove them right.

The IRA have been caught training the FARC in Columbia, and The IRA's political wing, Sinn Féin, has members like Gerry Adams who are Taliban sympathizers.

Which is why they're on US terrorist watch lists, isn't it?

[UlsterYank]

Is the economic situation there as bad as it's painted in the int'l press?  Or is it even worse?

I'm not sure to what extent that it's painted int'l, but it is pretty bad. The whole building trade is at a standstill, and a lot of tradesmen have had to immigrate to find work. This is actually occurring with a lot of countries that dove into adopting the Euro, and have had to receive huge bailouts that will take a long time to pay off, no thanks to utterly ridiculous GREED on behalf of politicians, specifically Fianna Fáil.

Frankly, it seems very weird to me for loyalist groups to use the Stars and Bars; how on earth did that come about?

It has something to do with the close relationship with the U.S&UK, especially being close allies in coalition involvement on the War on Terror. All of these paramilitary groups, or more so the wannabes in their communities are wankers, every single one of them. They take any kind of current event and make it political, and something they can sympathise with "Their Struggle." They'll even do it with the American civil war!

Well, in fairness a lot of people think that; you don't have to be a terrorist to think the US is conspiring with the British and Israelis.  I can certainly see how it could look that way to outsiders, and it's not as if we're not doing our best to prove them right.

Of course people are entitled to their own opinions, but I'm talking about a widespread hate towards the U.S military. I seriously have to conceal the fact that I'm a vet because people that I've formally gotten on with prior disassociated, and looked at me in a cold way upon hearing, as if we're not individuals, but the Black-n-Tans themselves. It's actually a huge well known part of Republican propaganda to have this hate towards the U.S Military, and to sympathise with the Free Palestine movement.

Which is why they're on US terrorist watch lists, isn't it?

At one stage, but that all changed with the Good Friday agreement. Gerry still gets turned down for visits to the White House, but....


Of course this is after we hear him on the radio condemning America, but he has no problem going to New York on St. Paddy's to raise money for Sinn Féin&NorthernIrish Aid (i.e. the money for arms&bombs, like the one that started this thread)

 

[rantynaru]

Just as Northern Ireland is trying to get over the troubles, this happens:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12947225

Such a sad time for this policeman's family.  Killed just because he was a Catholic working for the Police Service of Northern Ireland.  How petty some people can be.  Unfortunately there are a few people who wish to bring us back to the days of the troubles.  Except, instead of tearing NI apart, as they hope to do, these people are actually bringing both sides together.  Uniting them in their grief.  No one in Northern Ireland wishes to go back to the horrible times of the troubles (and thank goodness I wasn't there to experience them!)

Ronan Kerr's mother, instead of getting Mother's Day cards yesterday, was getting cards of condolence.  Not what a mother wishes to receive, on a special day.

May our thoughts be with the Kerr family at this sad time.
May we hope and pray that these irresponsible, and cowardly actions, of just a few individuals, will not bring Northern Ireland back to "the old days".

Sara

Ohmygod. I am so sorry. My condolences!
When will people stop hating each other and realize that we all share the same planet, to tolerate, respect and be polite to one another despite race, sexual orientation, differences, skin color, religion and political differences?
*cry*

[Melamphoros]

Ohmygod. I am so sorry. My condolences!
When will people stop hating each other and realize that we all share the same planet, to tolerate, respect and be polite to one another despite race, sexual orientation, differences, skin color, religion and political differences?
*cry*

That's never going to happen.  Even if people overcome the differences you describe, they would just find something else to hate each other over.

[UlsterYank]

That's never going to happen.  Even if people overcome the differences you describe, they would just find something else to hate each other over.

Exactly. The people behind this don't want peace. They're delusional animals&terrorists. Hate only plays a small part when murder and organised crime is your comfort zone. Murder&crime including some very evil and inhumane acts that plays no part on their conscious, and this is the dark world that they want to pull everyone else down into.   

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