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« Topic Start: May 22, 2011, 10:27:07 pm »

What requirement has been the most challenging in the DP for you?  Did you think that it was easy at first or does the thought of approaching it leave you in panic?

For me, those NNV essays seem to be the worst--that is until I get to the mental focus essay, which right now I am pretending like that doesn't exist--because the Virtues seem to be so fundamental and it is very difficult to translate into a writing medium.

The mental focus essay.....ugh, I am finding out each day how much I truly hate meditation.  It's like torture.  I'd rather be stapled to the chair (well, at least I would stay still for 15 minutes!).

How about you?  What's your most challenging requirement?
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« Reply #1: May 22, 2011, 10:35:51 pm »

What requirement has been the most challenging in the DP for you?  Did you think that it was easy at first?

For me, those NNV essays seem to be the worst--that is until I get to the mental focus essay, which right now I am pretending like that doesn't exist--because the Virtues seem to be so fundamental and it is very difficult to translate into a writing medium.

I'm finding it difficult to say things in a short amount of space. There are all these horror stories of people sending in ten times the minimum word quota (so 1250 words per High Day, for example). I'm trying to limit myself, and it's really making me have to sit and focus on the important bits of what I've learned.

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The mental focus essay.....ugh, I am finding out each day how much I truly hate meditation.  It's like torture.  I'd rather be stapled to the chair (well, at least I would stay still for 15 minutes!).

That's always been a stickler for me, too. I don't think you have to meditate, though - are you any good at visualization or energy work? Maybe doing a Two Powers working every day would suffice.
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« Reply #2: May 22, 2011, 11:40:28 pm »

What requirement has been the most challenging in the DP for you?  Did you think that it was easy at first or does the thought of approaching it leave you in panic?
The ritual write ups were problematic for me because you have to do 8 in a single year and the way my life was at the time, it was inevitable that something was going to be missed.  Especially the ones that didn't have a lot of personal meaning to me.  ("You mean the Equinox was last week?  Well, poo.  Guess I'm starting over again...")

Also the getting outdoors, communing with nature sections.  Normally, this would be my favorite part - but when it's 110F outside for months on end... not so much.  If I decide to try the DP again, I'll start it in the winter - get some momentum going before we hit triple digits.

I expected the meditation section would be trouble for me - it's always been a weak spot in the past - but the triple powers meditation worked surprisingly well for me and acted as a springboard for some really interesting work.
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« Reply #3: May 23, 2011, 05:43:34 am »

What requirement has been the most challenging in the DP for you?  Did you think that it was easy at first or does the thought of approaching it leave you in panic?

The ritual liturgy, specifically having to ring a bell like I was leading a mass in the back garden. I was living in the town that has both a papal college and is the headquarters for the catholic church in Ireland. Seeming black masses require akward explanations.

At one stage before I got a house with a garden I was living in a convent that had been turned into apartments and old nuns would wander around the place reminising. FFS. That bell was hard to explain. People thought I was a fruitcake when they didnt think I was summoning satan.
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« Reply #4: May 23, 2011, 09:40:26 am »

The ritual liturgy, specifically having to ring a bell like I was leading a mass in the back garden. I was living in the town that has both a papal college and is the headquarters for the catholic church in Ireland. Seeming black masses require akward explanations.

I'm a little confused - where is it required in the liturgy to ring a bell?
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« Reply #5: May 23, 2011, 05:56:27 pm »

What requirement has been the most challenging in the DP for you?  Did you think that it was easy at first or does the thought of approaching it leave you in panic?

For me, those NNV essays seem to be the worst--that is until I get to the mental focus essay, which right now I am pretending like that doesn't exist--because the Virtues seem to be so fundamental and it is very difficult to translate into a writing medium.

The mental focus essay.....ugh, I am finding out each day how much I truly hate meditation.  It's like torture.  I'd rather be stapled to the chair (well, at least I would stay still for 15 minutes!).

How about you?  What's your most challenging requirement?

I'm guessing NNV = Nine Virtues? I've actually enjoyed the preliminary work of the essays. What's killing me are the High Day observances and the meditation >< I am *awful* at meditation - though learning. And I have the hardest danged time with the High Days. I keep missing them lol. I'm predicting at this rate it'll be 12-24 months before I actually 'hit' all of them Tongue
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« Reply #6: May 24, 2011, 12:14:46 am »

I'm guessing NNV = Nine Virtues? I've actually enjoyed the preliminary work of the essays. What's killing me are the High Day observances and the meditation >< I am *awful* at meditation - though learning. And I have the hardest danged time with the High Days. I keep missing them lol. I'm predicting at this rate it'll be 12-24 months before I actually 'hit' all of them Tongue

Yes sorry, I'm so used to calling them the Nine Noble Virtues...the Nine Virtues. 

The Holy Days aren't really fixed...per se.  I mean, you could go by specific seasonal signs, lunar dates, astrological dates, etc, rather than just calendar days.

I'm finding it difficult to say things in a short amount of space. There are all these horror stories of people sending in ten times the minimum word quota (so 1250 words per High Day, for example). I'm trying to limit myself, and it's really making me have to sit and focus on the important bits of what I've learned.

Yeah, those word reqs are frustratingly short.  I just get started and it's time to quit!  You cannot do justice to most of the subjects on 125-325 words. 

What happens to those who go over the limit?  The fire pokers come out?  Ye gods, am I in trouble! Smiley


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Yeah, those word reqs are frustratingly short.  I just get started and it's time to quit!  You cannot do justice to most of the subjects on 125-325 words. 

What happens to those who go over the limit?  The fire pokers come out?  Ye gods, am I in trouble! Smiley


Heh. Yeah I'm still working the HDs into my thinking and such anyway.

See, I don't mind having a lot of material to work through re: word counts. It's usually easier for me to widdle down a lot of info down to a potent section rather than adding filler. Right now I'm focusing on writing say a page per virtue and I plan to combine and condense until it's more like a paragraph or so per virtue, tops. Which is WAY harder than it sounds esp regarding some of the harder to define virtues like Wisdom.
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« Reply #8: May 24, 2011, 12:36:55 am »

Heh. Yeah I'm still working the HDs into my thinking and such anyway.

See, I don't mind having a lot of material to work through re: word counts. It's usually easier for me to widdle down a lot of info down to a potent section rather than adding filler. Right now I'm focusing on writing say a page per virtue and I plan to combine and condense until it's more like a paragraph or so per virtue, tops. Which is WAY harder than it sounds esp regarding some of the harder to define virtues like Wisdom.

Oh, I totally know what you mean.  I had to do an assignment similar to this for my Tech Writing class.  We had to take a thirty page essay and whittle it down into either one sentence or 100 words.  It wasn't pretty.

For me though, it's not really filler exactly, I just have too much to say. Smiley
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« Reply #9: May 24, 2011, 12:50:23 am »

Oh, I totally know what you mean.  I had to do an assignment similar to this for my Tech Writing class.  We had to take a thirty page essay and whittle it down into either one sentence or 100 words.  It wasn't pretty.

For me though, it's not really filler exactly, I just have too much to say. Smiley

Heh. Yeah didn't mean to imply it was filler, just that sometimes being forced to curb the word count can trim extraneous info down to the essence of the argument, so to speak.

I also find thesaurus.com supremely useful when I have to revise and condense. Sometimes a full sentence can be deleted in favor of the perfect word or phrase. Cheesy

It can still be a mega chore.
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