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« Topic Start: June 24, 2007, 08:15:05 pm »


Long Live the Queen! Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Sir Salman Furor

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Yet again, a furor is sweeping across the Muslim world because Queen Elizabeth knighted the infidel, Salman Rushdie. Who more appropriate to comment on what it all means than a fellow infidel, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Somali-born activist on behalf of the rights of Muslim women who was also a member of the Dutch Parliament? Her memoir is entitled Infidel.

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      "The West is accusing Muslims of extremism and terrorism. If someone exploded a bomb on his body    he would be right to do so unless the British government apologizes and withdraws the 'sir' title."
     

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« Reply #1: June 24, 2007, 10:39:50 pm »


I agree completely with this from the last part of this editorial: 'With this episode involving Sir Salman, as with so many of late, the Nigerian playwright Wole Soyinka is absolutely right: It is a fatal mistake for the West to let the forces of intolerance "define the territory of insult." The West must stand its ground.'

Exactly. They have free speech too (at least as far as we are concerned) so have the right to bitch about things like this, but the West must NOT allow the voices of intolerance to dictate what we do. It is not wrong to like or even honor someone just because the voices of intolerance are going to scream.
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« Reply #2: June 24, 2007, 11:04:29 pm »


It is not wrong to like or even honor someone just because the voices of intolerance are going to scream.

Damn straight!  I've never read the Satanic Verses myself, but now I plan to ASAP, just because.  'Smatter o' fact, if I owned a bookstore, I would order a whole damn pallet and have a sale on it, just because I can.

In fact, the part of me that likes to piss off sef-rightous asshats wants very badly to mail a copy to everybody that bitched.  Especially people in the Pakistani government, but really everyone that demanded an apology.  I'm fighting off the urge to make a cartoon as we speak... <insert demonic grin>

And in related new, I just came across this:

Rushdie honour breaks UN code, says Pakistan
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Pakistan has told Britain that Salman Rushdie's knighthood breaches a United Nations resolution aimed at calming tensions between different religions, The Observer has learnt. The highly unusual warning was made during a meeting with the British High Commissioner in Pakistan and reveals the extent to which senior Pakistani politicians fear the award will damage relations between the countries.

I find myself very proud of the British government at this moment; they're showing a damn sight more intestinal fortitude than our government would, under similiar circumstances.  But then, I personally would tell Pakistan outright to piss off.  I mean, it's not like the people in your country who would be pissed about your doing so aren't already pissed.

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« Reply #3: June 25, 2007, 08:36:09 am »

Damn straight!  I've never read the Satanic Verses myself, but now I plan to ASAP, just because.  'Smatter o' fact, if I owned a bookstore, I would order a whole damn pallet and have a sale on it, just because I can.

As far as I know, few if any of the Muslims condemning the book have read it. Ayatollah Khomeini, who issued the fatwa against Rushdie and anyone else who worked on the novel, reportedly had not even seen it, let alone read it. I've read it and don't see anything that offensive in it -- personally, I suspect Khomeini was less offended by the "Satanic Verses" reference (which is an old story in the Islamic world) than by an Imam character who was obviously based on Khomeini.

The book would have died a quiet dead (as it is not great. IMHO) had there not been all the fireworks from intolerant people.
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« Reply #4: June 25, 2007, 11:57:54 am »


As far as I know, few if any of the Muslims condemning the book have read it.

IME, that's usually the case.  I'm never quite sure whether it should amuse me, or piss me off.  Usually, it's a little bit of both.  It reminds me of Book-a-Minute's snide entry on Harry Potter.   Cheesy

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The book would have died a quiet dead (as it is not great. IMHO) had there not been all the fireworks from intolerant people.

Are any of his books particularly good?  Because if not, why did he win a buncha prizes for The Satanic Verses?  I mean, I know less-than-deserving books win prizes sometimes, but there's usually a reason, like the author's rep.

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« Reply #5: June 25, 2007, 01:16:41 pm »

It reminds me of Book-a-Minute's snide entry on Harry Potter.   Cheesy

Yay for snarky common sense!
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« Reply #6: June 26, 2007, 10:49:34 am »

Yay for snarky common sense!

I love that site; it's usually pretty damn funny.   Cheesy

Btw, that little cougar of yours is adorableCheesy What's his/her name?

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« Reply #7: June 26, 2007, 12:20:20 pm »

Btw, that little cougar of yours is adorableCheesy What's his/her name?

Actually, he's one of the standard avatars, so I have no idea.  Ask Randall, maybe.
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« Reply #8: June 26, 2007, 06:02:04 pm »

Actually, he's one of the standard avatars, so I have no idea.  Ask Randall, maybe.

Don't ask me -- I have no idea. LOL.
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