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« Topic Start: June 20, 2011, 10:48:29 pm »

I was watching the show, Ancient Aliens on the History Channel about the ancient astronaut theory, the idea that aliens/extra terrestrials came to earth thousands of years ago and our ancestors deified them as gods and goddesses. Although, initially skeptical it got me thinking a bit about the gods of different cultures. What do you think of all this theory?
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« Reply #1: June 20, 2011, 11:09:45 pm »

I was watching the show, Ancient Aliens on the History Channel about the ancient astronaut theory, the idea that aliens/extra terrestrials came to earth thousands of years ago and our ancestors deified them as gods and goddesses. Although, initially skeptical it got me thinking a bit about the gods of different cultures. What do you think of all this theory?

It seems pretty disrespectful if you ask me. I'm really not a fan of "what you believe is REALLY something else, you're just too stupid/primitive/unenlightened to know it yet." I also don't know why we're calling it a "theory." Don't theories require some sort of proof?
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« Reply #2: June 20, 2011, 11:11:37 pm »

It seems pretty disrespectful if you ask me. I'm really not a fan of "what you believe is REALLY something else, you're just too stupid/primitive/unenlightened to know it yet." I also don't know why we're calling it a "theory." Don't theories require some sort of proof?

At best it could be called a hypothesis.
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« Reply #3: June 21, 2011, 08:08:54 am »

I was watching the show, Ancient Aliens on the History Channel about the ancient astronaut theory, the idea that aliens/extra terrestrials came to earth thousands of years ago and our ancestors deified them as gods and goddesses. Although, initially skeptical it got me thinking a bit about the gods of different cultures. What do you think of all this theory?

I know some myths and legends seem like they could be related to aliens in some way. Especially the ones from cultures that built things that could only be seen from space. Even though I do believe in aliens I don't think that they were here making ancient people think they were gods and goddesses. An alien species coming along and having primitive humans build pyramids and pictures of monkeys that can be seen from space doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.
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« Reply #4: June 21, 2011, 08:09:51 am »

I was watching the show, Ancient Aliens on the History Channel about the ancient astronaut theory, the idea that aliens/extra terrestrials came to earth thousands of years ago and our ancestors deified them as gods and goddesses. Although, initially skeptical it got me thinking a bit about the gods of different cultures. What do you think of all this theory?

When push comes to shove, the whole hypothesis seems to be based on the idea than ancient humans were incapable of building things like the pyramids so that had to have help -- from aliens. It also assumes that ancient humans could easily be fooled into thinking these aliens were gods. There's a whole lot of "ifs" and not much solid evidence for any of it.
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« Reply #5: June 21, 2011, 08:29:05 am »

When push comes to shove, the whole hypothesis seems to be based on the idea than ancient humans were incapable of building things like the pyramids so that had to have help -- from aliens. It also assumes that ancient humans could easily be fooled into thinking these aliens were gods. There's a whole lot of "ifs" and not much solid evidence for any of it.


^ Exactly. There's a common unspoken assumption regarding our ancestors, namely 'our ancestors the cavemen' were idiots. They weren't, they didn't have the same technology or body of knowledge as we do but they were every bit as intelligent as we are. Not to mention most of these theories seem to trace back to Van Daaniken (SP?) who has been thoroughly discredited and is barely educated.

It is *possible* that intelligent alien life has visited Earth in the past/present/future but refusing to acknowledge that our ancestors were intelligent and capable is insulting to them and ourselves, especially in the lack of any real verifiable evidence.

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« Reply #6: June 21, 2011, 08:32:44 am »


Thank you! The Ancient Egyptians and such were badass enough on their own without ET having to come down and muck around.
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« Reply #7: June 21, 2011, 02:29:26 pm »

Not to mention most of these theories seem to trace back to Van Daaniken (SP?) who has been thoroughly discredited and is barely educated.

If you take his books with a grain of salt (though in that case a crate of salt might be better^^) they make for quite an amusing read  Wink I believe you spell the man von Däniken; I think he's either German or Swiss.
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« Reply #8: June 21, 2011, 03:45:24 pm »

If you take his books with a grain of salt (though in that case a crate of salt might be better^^) they make for quite an amusing read  Wink I believe you spell the man von Däniken; I think he's either German or Swiss.

He's Swiss , I've read three of his books, they are very entertaining, but of course leave a lot to speculation and opinions.
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« Reply #9: June 21, 2011, 05:02:53 pm »

If you take his books with a grain of salt (though in that case a crate of salt might be better^^) they make for quite an amusing read  Wink I believe you spell the man von Däniken; I think he's either German or Swiss.

I thought they were a great read back in the 1970s. I found them unbelievable, but fun to read.
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« Reply #10: June 22, 2011, 10:36:33 am »


I'm not willing to dismiss the theories out of hand, any more than I'm willing to dismiss the idea that there are gods whom we cannot see with our eyes.

You'll notice, as you go through the episodes, that they'll focus on numerous theories within one 2-hour show, and some of the ideas actually conflict with each other.  I don't think the idea is to convince you of any one theory being the right one (it's not a church sermon, after all, but a TV show), but rather to present ideas about how it came to be that so many religions and cultures reference similar ideas while being geographically remote from one another.
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« Reply #11: June 22, 2011, 06:28:58 pm »

I was watching the show, Ancient Aliens on the History Channel about the ancient astronaut theory, the idea that aliens/extra terrestrials came to earth thousands of years ago and our ancestors deified them as gods and goddesses. Although, initially skeptical it got me thinking a bit about the gods of different cultures. What do you think of all this theory?

I'm open to it and do not find it disrespectful. I find it plausible that any lifeform able to travel interstellar distances would be not only capable of other advanced technologies which would appear magickal but also probably able to directly interface with human thought, ie mind control. I'm not sold on it though because depictions of aircraft, spaceships, aliens and astronauts in ancient artwork could be imaginative or long range precognition. I am puzzled by the Nasca type terrain art that can be seen from the air/space though.
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« Reply #12: June 22, 2011, 06:36:17 pm »

I am puzzled by the Nasca type terrain art that can be seen from the air/space though.

Many people's gods live in the sky.  Combining art and math (or engineering?) to make a work of art that can only be seen by the gods seems like a wonderful way to honour them.  The fact that we developed ways to see them ourselves, and found that they were accurate just speaks to the talents and intelligence of their creators.

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