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« Topic Start: June 26, 2007, 08:23:44 pm »

Well Met. I was wondering from those of you who are either vegetarian/vegan and are or have been pregnant, what were some things you kept in mind diet wise? I know the basic supplementation as i'm a vegetarian myself, but is there anything else you had to watch out for or be extra careful of?

Thank you in advance for your time and bright blessings.
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« Reply #1: June 26, 2007, 08:28:20 pm »

Well Met. I was wondering from those of you who are either vegetarian/vegan and are or have been pregnant, what were some things you kept in mind diet wise? I know the basic supplementation as i'm a vegetarian myself, but is there anything else you had to watch out for or be extra careful of?

Thank you in advance for your time and bright blessings.

I'm not vegetarian, but the one thing I ran into when I was pregnant was iron supplements.  If you need iron regularly, you're going to need to ramp it up.

and my other suggestion is to make sure you're loading on protein even more than regularly.  It's probably harder to do as a vegetarian, so it's more important to make sure you start with that instead of salad, etc.
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« Reply #2: June 26, 2007, 08:47:24 pm »

Well Met. I was wondering from those of you who are either vegetarian/vegan and are or have been pregnant, what were some things you kept in mind diet wise? I know the basic supplementation as i'm a vegetarian myself, but is there anything else you had to watch out for or be extra careful of?

Though I'm also not vegetarian or vegan, my first thought is to be sure your doc knows you're vegetarian and talk to him/her about dietary needs.  Also, though they're no substitute for a doctor's advice, some pregnancy sites have info on eating a vegetarian diet while pregnant that you might take a look at.
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« Reply #3: June 26, 2007, 08:51:41 pm »

Though I'm also not vegetarian or vegan, my first thought is to be sure your doc knows you're vegetarian and talk to him/her about dietary needs.  Also, though they're no substitute for a doctor's advice, some pregnancy sites have info on eating a vegetarian diet while pregnant that you might take a look at.

and to add to that, use COMMON SENSE on top of whatever websites or doctor advice you get.  if a website tells you that eating laundry detergent is okay, ignore EVERYTHING on that website.

There's a LOT of garbage out there, I'm sad to say.
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« Reply #4: June 26, 2007, 08:54:04 pm »

I'm not vegetarian, but the one thing I ran into when I was pregnant was iron supplements.  If you need iron regularly, you're going to need to ramp it up.

and my other suggestion is to make sure you're loading on protein even more than regularly.  It's probably harder to do as a vegetarian, so it's more important to make sure you start with that instead of salad, etc.

Yeah, I eat alot of soy *fake meats* like Notdogs and Boca Burgers already. I am also slightly anemic and very slowly it seems to be progressing, only a little every few years or so but still, so thanks for the tip!

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**edit by author...I do take iron supplements already and still my anemia gets like that. I always forget to type something in my posts when i'm on too much coffee,lol.**
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« Reply #5: June 26, 2007, 08:55:55 pm »

Though I'm also not vegetarian or vegan, my first thought is to be sure your doc knows you're vegetarian and talk to him/her about dietary needs.  Also, though they're no substitute for a doctor's advice, some pregnancy sites have info on eating a vegetarian diet while pregnant that you might take a look at.

Both of those I knew or already did. I know how no matter how much you think you know on a topic, there always seems to be something that comes up and you're like ummmm...whaaaa? lol. I'd say especially with pregnancy,anything seems able to happen.

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« Reply #6: June 26, 2007, 08:57:39 pm »

and to add to that, use COMMON SENSE on top of whatever websites or doctor advice you get.  if a website tells you that eating laundry detergent is okay, ignore EVERYTHING on that website.

Well, yes.  LOL  Never ever leave your critical reading skills behind, of course.  Although I've yet to see a pregnancy site that doesn't specifically say that if you're craving inedibles like soap you should talk to a doctor immediately because that's pica, which is dangerous and can be a sign of serious iron deficiency.  But I may have just had good luck so far in the info I've been finding.
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« Reply #7: June 26, 2007, 08:59:47 pm »

Well, yes.  LOL  Never ever leave your critical reading skills behind, of course.  Although I've yet to see a pregnancy site that doesn't specifically say that if you're craving inedibles like soap you should talk to a doctor immediately because that's pica, which is dangerous and can be a sign of serious iron deficiency.  But I may have just had good luck so far in the info I've been finding.

How far along are you? and.***CONGRATS***!!!LOL

I might be and i'm not sure how I feel about it, and when I got thinking i decided to post this.

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« Reply #8: June 26, 2007, 09:38:28 pm »

Well Met. I was wondering from those of you who are either vegetarian/vegan and are or have been pregnant, what were some things you kept in mind diet wise? I know the basic supplementation as i'm a vegetarian myself, but is there anything else you had to watch out for or be extra careful of?

Thank you in advance for your time and bright blessings.

I know that vegans can have a hard time with breast-feeding, because they don't always have enough nutrients to keep a child healthy. Make sure you let your doctor know, and follow their recommendations carefully.
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« Reply #9: June 26, 2007, 11:29:20 pm »

Well Met. I was wondering from those of you who are either vegetarian/vegan and are or have been pregnant, what were some things you kept in mind diet wise?

While I'm not vegetarian or vegan, when I was pregnant with my son, I always tried to drink extra milk and to get extra calcium from either supplements or dairy foods.

I also had to watch the acidic foods like coffee, orange juice and soda as those would give me heartburn.
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« Reply #10: June 27, 2007, 08:20:28 am »

Yeah, I eat alot of soy *fake meats* like Notdogs and Boca Burgers already. I am also slightly anemic and very slowly it seems to be progressing, only a little every few years or so but still, so thanks for the tip!

Bright Blessings Smiley

**edit by author...I do take iron supplements already and still my anemia gets like that. I always forget to type something in my posts when i'm on too much coffee,lol.**

I'm not sure about the current status on this, but over loading soy during pregnancy isn't necessarily safe.  When I was pregnant I was encouraged to stay away from soy because of the phytoestorogens in it having the potential to cause developmental problems, particularly in male children.

Of course vegan/ vegetarian websites lean heavily on the "it hasn't been studied enough to really know/ it's a smear campaign" point of view.

MSN has another article on it saying that the findings are fairly well documented, but that whether the trials were conducted under 'scientific conditions' is up for debate.

http://health.ninemsn.com.au/asktheexperts/lindacumines.aspx?id=3469

The wording was "excess soy" so I would definitely look into finding out exactly what "excess" means.

Here's an article that seems to do well explaining the isoflavin/ phytoestrogen connections, and why it's usage has been different outside of Asian countries and context - to paraphrase, we eat a whole lot more of it than they do.  The articles comparison is to mustard.  They eat soy like we eat mustard.  We make it a main course. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_controversy.html

If you have cast iron cookware it can be a lifesaver if you don't do well on iron supplements.  Get a tomato or three, brown some onion in the skillet, season to taste, squeeze the seeds and goo out of the tomato and chop to 1" dices.  Toss it in and let it cook down. (throw away the goo and seeds) It will leach trace amounts of iron out of the pan.

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« Reply #11: June 27, 2007, 08:26:56 am »

How far along are you? and.***CONGRATS***!!!LOL

Just past the seven-month mark; I'm due in the middle of August.  Thanks.  Smiley

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« Reply #12: June 27, 2007, 08:53:23 am »

Here's an article that seems to do well explaining the isoflavin/ phytoestrogen connections, and why it's usage has been different outside of Asian countries and context - to paraphrase, we eat a whole lot more of it than they do.  The articles comparison is to mustard.  They eat soy like we eat mustard.  We make it a main course. 

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/soy_controversy.html

I have to admit I just skimmed the article, but I'm not sure mustard is a good comparison, at least not to the Korean diet.  I wouldn't be surprised if Koreans ate soy every single day, and I'd guess your average American goes a few days between mustard helpings.  Maybe ketchup would be better?

Here, soy can certainly be a main dish, though it's not a particularly frequent choice (pork is the big source of protein here, specifically uncured bacon  Tongue).  But soup is eaten at almost every meal, and the most common broth base is doenjang, soybean paste (and the soup's probably got some tofu chunks in too).  And Koreans love to use lots of their special hot sauce, gochujang, also soy based.  Between those two, I probably eat soy every day, even as a nonveg eating a pretty high proportion of Western food.

And yes, doenjang and gochujang are both condiments, but I think Korean people eat them way more often than your average American eats, say, barbecue sauce.  So I think some of the people saying "soy use is different in Asia!" are being a tiny bit misleading.  It is different, but maybe not quite as much less as you would think of from the statement "soy is a condiment."

Still, I would guess your average Western vegetarian eats more soy than your average meat-eating Korean, so it's still something to keep in mind.  Processed foods are becoming more popular in Korea, and as those often have added soy, it'll be interesting to find out in the future if we can see any health effects from that.  And of course, it's always good to get your nutrients, including protein, from a variety of sources, so definitely check out alternatives to soy, if only for a little diversity. Smiley
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« Reply #13: June 29, 2007, 04:38:40 pm »

Well Met. I was wondering from those of you who are either vegetarian/vegan and are or have been pregnant, what were some things you kept in mind diet wise? I know the basic supplementation as i'm a vegetarian myself, but is there anything else you had to watch out for or be extra careful of?

Thank you in advance for your time and bright blessings.

I had only been a vegetarian for about a year when I was expecting my first child. I had such questions too. My OBGYN was Hindu and about laughed me out of her office.

I would go along with what others have posted here, just be sensible in eating habits, don't use being pregnant as an excuse to over-indulge.

Of course caffine was out - and that was hard, as I was a coffee lover at the time.

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