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« Topic Start: June 30, 2007, 09:26:36 am »

(My thinking is that it's damn near impossible.)

What to do when everything is ‘Made in China?’
A one-week attempt to avoid products from there meets with little success

U.S. shoppers may be forgiven if they are becoming leery of Chinese-made goods and are trying to fill their shopping carts with products free of ingredients from that country.

The trouble is, that may be almost impossible.

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« Reply #1: June 30, 2007, 09:31:48 am »

(My thinking is that it's damn near impossible.)

What to do when everything is ‘Made in China?’
A one-week attempt to avoid products from there meets with little success

U.S. shoppers may be forgiven if they are becoming leery of Chinese-made goods and are trying to fill their shopping carts with products free of ingredients from that country.

The trouble is, that may be almost impossible.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19508453/

whole foods diet.  the rest of it, I've no clue.  As soon as my kids feet stop growing, I'm getting them Birkys. clothing is probably a lost cause.
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« Reply #2: June 30, 2007, 09:32:52 am »

whole foods diet.  the rest of it, I've no clue.  As soon as my kids feet stop growing, I'm getting them Birkys. clothing is probably a lost cause.

Weren't you the one trying to boycott China right after the pet food poisoning?
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« Reply #3: June 30, 2007, 04:47:17 pm »

Weren't you the one trying to boycott China right after the pet food poisoning?

Question: is that an accusation?  Because a whole lot of other people were running ideas of that sort through the threads including the cauldron commune. maybe I'm just tired.

Yes I did say no more processed foods until I could be sure it didn't come from china.  I have been about as successful at that as the family trying to find nonchinese schoes acceptable to their son.  I'm beginning to think it is impossible to avoid chinese in anything except for locally done whole food, hence the comment.

I thought BIrky's were made in germany.  If they're not I may have to reassess, because aside from comfort, that's one reason I buy them, germany has worker protection.
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« Reply #4: June 30, 2007, 05:45:48 pm »

Question: is that an accusation?  Because a whole lot of other people were running ideas of that sort through the threads including the cauldron commune. maybe I'm just tired.

No. Not at all. I just remembered someone talking about it and shoes specifically (I think) and how hard it was to find non-China options, but I couldn't remember who it was.

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Yes I did say no more processed foods until I could be sure it didn't come from china.  I have been about as successful at that as the family trying to find nonchinese schoes acceptable to their son.  I'm beginning to think it is impossible to avoid chinese in anything except for locally done whole food, hence the comment.

Sometimes I think Walmart has a whole lot to answer for because, while there have always been a lot of imports, it seems the Made in China craze started going insane about the time they were doing the price cut thing.

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I thought BIrky's were made in germany.  If they're not I may have to reassess, because aside from comfort, that's one reason I buy them, germany has worker protection.

They may be. I wish I could do something like that, but I'm limited to either Nike or Addidas cross trainers because of my foot problems. Sad
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« Reply #5: June 30, 2007, 05:49:58 pm »

Sometimes I think Walmart has a whole lot to answer for because, while there have always been a lot of imports, it seems the Made in China craze started going insane about the time they were doing the price cut thing.

There was an article in a Dutch paper recently about Walmart. They mentioned that if Walmart were a country, they'd be China's 9th largest trading partner.

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« Reply #6: June 30, 2007, 06:08:49 pm »

There was an article in a Dutch paper recently about Walmart. They mentioned that if Walmart were a country, they'd be China's 9th largest trading partner.

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I have no doubt that's true. The amount of cheap knockoffs at Walmart seems to have increased quite a bit more than what they had a few years ago. And it was a lot then!
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« Reply #7: June 30, 2007, 06:10:59 pm »

There was an article in a Dutch paper recently about Walmart. They mentioned that if Walmart were a country, they'd be China's 9th largest trading partner.

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Which is really scary when you think about it. Sad
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« Reply #8: June 30, 2007, 08:44:01 pm »

(My thinking is that it's damn near impossible.)

What to do when everything is ‘Made in China?’
A one-week attempt to avoid products from there meets with little success

U.S. shoppers may be forgiven if they are becoming leery of Chinese-made goods and are trying to fill their shopping carts with products free of ingredients from that country.

The trouble is, that may be almost impossible.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19508453/

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« Reply #9: July 02, 2007, 12:02:25 pm »


No. Not at all. I just remembered someone talking about it and shoes specifically (I think) and how hard it was to find non-China options, but I couldn't remember who it was.

*raises hand*

That was me.  And it is damn near impossible to find comfy, non-China-made shoes when you can't afford Birkenstocks (though I'm saving up, and hoping the Birkenstock clearance store out near Notre Dame is as realatively cheap as I hear).  I wound up having to suck it up, because I really had to have shoes.

Clothing, though pretty much impossible to find made in the US, is still not too difficult to find not made in China.  Any given article of clothing, IME, has about 50% odds of being made in China -- 75% odds if it's something I like.   Angry

Also, according to the article, Bicycle playing cards are made in the US, but the ones in my Wal-Mart aren't, so that may vary.  It also states that gum arabic is primarily a Chinese product, but according to NPR, it's a Sudanese product (although if it's grown in Sudan and processed in China, that's doubly damning) that's in everything.

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Sometimes I think Walmart has a whole lot to answer for because, while there have always been a lot of imports, it seems the Made in China craze started going insane about the time they were doing the price cut thing.

I doubt they really care.  They're building stores in China now, so by the time the US economy crashes (and I have no proof it will, it's just the feeling I get), they'll be sitting pretty in Asia.  Really, I'm surprised they haven't built any stores in Mumbai or Bangladesh, yet.

Btw, Mandrina:

I thought BIrky's were made in germany.  If they're not I may have to reassess, because aside from comfort, that's one reason I buy them, germany has worker protection.

They are.  See: http://www.birkenstock.com/index_kl24.php

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« Reply #10: July 02, 2007, 12:04:24 pm »

*raises hand*

That was me.  And it is damn near impossible to find comfy, non-China-made shoes when you can't afford Birkenstocks (though I'm saving up, and hoping the Birkenstock clearance store out near Notre Dame is as realatively cheap as I hear).  I wound up having to suck it up, because I really had to have shoes.

AHA!! I thought I remembered *someone* talking about shoes.
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« Reply #11: July 02, 2007, 12:17:27 pm »

Weren't you the one trying to boycott China right after the pet food poisoning?

I don't remember exaclty who that was either who was already boycotting, but shortly after that post, I started my own "as much as I can" boycott of China.  It's hard.  But I just bought a Fantastic pair of stylish and Comfortable shoes made in Mexico by a brand of Born Shoes.  Granted, it's not the USA where workers will get proper wages, but I'd rather support Mexican trade than China's at this point.

I eat mostly a whole food type diet, so food usually isn't a concern for me being that I live in Texas where a lot of the imported stuff comes from Mexico.  But I am training myself to keep a lookout.  There are some things, like my Green and White teas that I'm just going to have to concede on, though.  but I have reveled in the fact that food storage options are easy.  Just use Pyrex glassware instead of plastic.  It's sturdier anyways AND it can go in the oven.  Some Corningware is also made in the USA.

Clothing and electronics are where most of us are gonna have a REALLY hard time.  The US just doesn't make much.  More so electronics than clothing, but still. 

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« Reply #12: July 02, 2007, 12:26:11 pm »

There are some things, like my Green and White teas that I'm just going to have to concede on, though.  but I have reveled in the fact that food storage options are easy. 

Probably depends on how attached to a particular brand of tea you are...  I've had some really yummy Japanese green teas.  Smiley
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Probably depends on how attached to a particular brand of tea you are...  I've had some really yummy Japanese green teas.  Smiley

I thought most tea was grown in India, anyway...?

I take it that was a wrong assumption.

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« Reply #14: July 02, 2007, 12:58:51 pm »

I thought most tea was grown in India, anyway...?

India is a major tea-producer, but IIRC there are other areas of the world where it's grown and processed too.  (China is another major one.)

I admit I don't have much specific knowledge here, though, just a sort of general fuzziness, so maybe someone who knows more will help us out...
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