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« Reply #45: July 07, 2007, 11:08:20 pm »

  I don't feel personal guilt.  I feel that as a person who has means and a voice and buying power, I can lend a hand and so I will. 


It's difficult. What I know of individual company boycotts is that if the boycott gets enough media attention, the company closes the factory in question (leaving all the workers without jobs again) and opens up in a new location with exactly the same practices but out of the spotlight again. I think the problem is trade agreements.
I'm not sure how it works with China, but our (Canada and other western nations) trade agreements with most African and South American nations are exploitive. A lot of the time we take their resources in exports and claim the rights to production which is where the real money is. Even though the countries may be rich in resources they have signed away rights via trade agreement in efforts to pay back aid,arms and what not.

At the moment I'm not buying any food that is labelled from China. There's just too much wackiness going on. Until there are better controls in place I wont be buying from there.
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« Reply #46: July 08, 2007, 09:24:22 am »

That's a really neat site! I reckon I'm gonna have to start saving me pennies so that I can find some wonderful clothes that, hopefully, will last forever. 

Or at least longer than some of the stuff I'm getting now.  Undecided

Thanks for the site, Thistle.  Wink

 Smiley  Glad I could help!

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« Reply #47: July 08, 2007, 03:00:32 pm »

Smiley  Glad I could help!

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Thanks again.  Smiley

Have you any other such sites you might share?
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« Reply #48: July 08, 2007, 04:58:08 pm »


Have you any other such sites you might share?

For some fun and funky yet fashionable recycled wear and accessories try:

http://www.eco-artware.com

http://www.rockcycleonline.com




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« Reply #49: July 08, 2007, 05:21:30 pm »

Also replying to thread in general:

It seems to me that we are discussing  two or more, somewhat separate, issues here.  1) The poor quality/unsafety of many products made in China, as well as in other third-world countries. 2) The ethics of buying cheap goods from factories and other situations where workers are exploited. 

I don't know much about the first, but for those of you who's main concern is the second, you might want to check out ethical consumer magazine.  They rate products based on several factors including fair trade and environmental impact.   
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« Reply #50: July 08, 2007, 05:35:41 pm »

People on social security, people on minimum wage, students, and so on. Would you blame them for trying to make ends meet?

Luckily, it is possible to be a low-income "ethical consumer."  by shopping for clothing, furniture, and other household items at thrift stores and yard sales, one can make ends meet while reducing the amount of perfectly-serviceable items that enter our landfills each year. 

Food and other perishable items are a bit harder.  For those of you lucky enough to live in the country, buying produce, in bulk, straight from the farmer could help.  You'd be buying local as well as saving money.
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« Reply #51: July 09, 2007, 12:48:41 am »

For those of you lucky enough to live in the country, buying produce, in bulk, straight from the farmer could help.  You'd be buying local as well as saving money.

Another good point to living in the country, and even in town if you've pots and containers and a place large enough for them, is you can garden and grow alot of your own food and veggies.

Oh yeah, and the food tastes better, too!  Cheesy
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« Reply #52: July 09, 2007, 12:51:01 am »

For some fun and funky yet fashionable recycled wear and accessories try:

http://www.eco-artware.com

http://www.rockcycleonline.com

Those look like fun sites. Thanks!  Grin
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« Reply #53: July 09, 2007, 01:01:16 am »

Another good point to living in the country, and even in town if you've pots and containers and a place large enough for them, is you can garden and grow alot of your own food and veggies.

Oh yeah, and the food tastes better, too!  Cheesy

So true.  it's amazing how much food can be grown in a tiny or awkward place (with proper care of plants and soil).  Funny that this thread is about China's products.  I've always admired the Chinese ability to farm difficult and hilly land.
http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/gnn_images/news_content/04_02/rice_genomes/rice1.jpg
And I'm talking traditionally.  Nowdays, most Chinese farming practices are just as bad as ours.  But they still have the beautiful rice fields!   
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« Reply #54: July 09, 2007, 01:24:05 am »

So true.  it's amazing how much food can be grown in a tiny or awkward place (with proper care of plants and soil). 

Oh yes, that's most definately for sure!

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I've always admired the Chinese ability to farm difficult and hilly land.

And I'm talking traditionally.  Nowdays, most Chinese farming practices are just as bad as ours.  But they still have the beautiful rice fields!   

Perhaps if we took a page from their book instead of them taking a page from ours, maybe the food crops and fields wouldn't "need" so many chemicals.  IMO, hybrid and GM foods and plants are just plain retarded. Yes, Nature will create a hybrid plant (have you never seen a cross between a pumpkin and a squash or a squash and a cucumber?) but She sure as hell won't create a genitically modified plant in order to kill "pests"...She'll send in other "pests" to do away with the first ones that are wreaking havoc!

And really, did the scientists fully do their homework before creating the GM crops? or are we supposed to view all the other insects (ie the monarch butterfly caterpillars) that are innocently killed by the GM crapcrops as collateral damage just because the crop producers don't want insects to eat the crop?  Or was it a case of big business "putting the cart before the horse" and not caring about anything but the money rolling in and lining their pockets?

Thank the Gods and Goddesses I have sources for heirloom varieties of fruits and vegetables!
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« Reply #55: July 09, 2007, 11:51:22 am »

(My thinking is that it's damn near impossible.)

What to do when everything is ‘Made in China?’

U.S. shoppers may be forgiven if they are becoming leery of Chinese-made goods and are trying to fill their shopping carts with products free of ingredients from that country.

The trouble is, that may be almost impossible.

China goods and mfg. practices back in the news today July 9, 2007 Newsweek article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19649894/site/newsweek
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