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« Reply #15: July 25, 2007, 04:52:47 pm »

I know that there are some people on here that have been in Wicca for a long time (the beginning?).  I have been wondering why they would choose to call themselves a witch?  Wicca was created in the last century so they could have used any term to describe themselves, but they chose a word that already had negative connotations.  Now they spend all there time defending themselves.  "We are not evil."  "Not that kind of witch." etc.  Just saying 'Wiccan' should have been fine.  Nice, obscure, had no prior baggage.  I've even seen references to a whole debacle with BTW fighting that "we are the one, true witches, all others are posers" so that people decided to call themselves Wiccan to avoid it (and now they are on the "we are the one, true Wiccans, all others are posers"). Wouldn't it just have saved time and energy if they didn't try to redefine or clean the rep of the term 'witch' in the first place? Any history on the decision to use the term 'witch'?
Personally, I define myself as a witch or a Wiccan interchangeably.  I guess in thinking about it, when I discuss my beliefs/faith, I refer to Wicca.  When I discuss magic, I refer to Witchcraft.
1.  I am a Wiccan.
2.  I work magic.

On another note... I do not defend myself.  In the end, people tend to jump to the conclusion "Methinks she doth protest too much" if you try to defend yourself - And they will still believe what they want.  Most often, I politely suggest that they might want to read up on Wicca/Witchcraft prior to judging anyone.  If they actually seem interested in broadening their mind, I suggest a number of good research books for non-Wiccans to learn about Wicca and witchcraft.
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« Reply #16: July 25, 2007, 05:11:58 pm »

Personally, I define myself as a witch or a Wiccan interchangeably.  I guess in thinking about it, when I discuss my beliefs/faith, I refer to Wicca.  When I discuss magic, I refer to Witchcraft.
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« Reply #17: July 25, 2007, 05:20:33 pm »


One of my standard jokes is about eating the neighbourhood children. On my window sill there are five 'statues' of lovely clichee witches in their worst aspect as old hags. The snakecooking kind.

I think the standard joke in this house is that I don't melt in the rain and in fact I'm the one likely to be standing outside in barefeet in the rainstorm Wink
Neighbours already think we're all slightly odd (ok, we are lol) - especially with the housemate regularly informing potential girlfriends, mates, and random neighbourhood teenagers that "She's a witch, you know. A real one."  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #18: July 25, 2007, 05:21:58 pm »

Personally, I define myself as a witch or a Wiccan interchangeably.  I guess in thinking about it, when I discuss my beliefs/faith, I refer to Wicca.  When I discuss magic, I refer to Witchcraft.
1.  I am a Wiccan.
2.  I work magic.

On another note... I do not defend myself.  In the end, people tend to jump to the conclusion "Methinks she doth protest too much" if you try to defend yourself - And they will still believe what they want.  Most often, I politely suggest that they might want to read up on Wicca/Witchcraft prior to judging anyone.  If they actually seem interested in broadening their mind, I suggest a number of good research books for non-Wiccans to learn about Wicca and witchcraft.

I'm practically the same way.  I already "argue too much" when it comes to other things.  It's just not worth it if they're going to say stuff that vaguely remind me of chick publishings.
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« Reply #19: July 25, 2007, 05:24:19 pm »

Personally, I define myself as a witch or a Wiccan interchangeably.

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« Reply #20: July 25, 2007, 05:27:44 pm »

I think the standard joke in this house is that I don't melt in the rain and in fact I'm the one likely to be standing outside in barefeet in the rainstorm Wink
Neighbours already think we're all slightly odd (ok, we are lol) - especially with the housemate regularly informing potential girlfriends, mates, and random neighbourhood teenagers that "She's a witch, you know. A real one."  Roll Eyes

Well, at least they're supportive, eh!  Cheesy
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« Reply #21: July 25, 2007, 05:41:17 pm »

Well, at least they're supportive, eh!  Cheesy


Oh yeah lol Although it's a good thing I didn't hear exactly what the housemate was told before he moved in until a much later date...*headdesk moment*... the guy moved in anyway and he's still living here!
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« Reply #22: July 25, 2007, 05:46:06 pm »

Welcome to TC, BloodyMary.

Thank you to everyone who greeted my first post.  I love being here.
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« Reply #23: July 25, 2007, 05:54:02 pm »

Oh yeah lol Although it's a good thing I didn't hear exactly what the housemate was told before he moved in until a much later date...*headdesk moment*... the guy moved in anyway and he's still living here!

Oh?
What was he told?
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« Reply #24: July 25, 2007, 06:04:25 pm »

Thank you to everyone who greeted my first post.  I love being here.

Welcome Smiley (I totally forgot to say that before.... Embarrassed )

And they will still believe what they want. 

Too true... and I'm just cruel enough to let them do so Wink
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« Reply #25: July 25, 2007, 06:09:29 pm »

Oh?
What was he told?

Ok, short version... two guys... beer... stupidity ... mix well... (these two, they are special...)

"You know she's a witch?"
"Aren't they all?"
"No, a real witch"
"Seriously?"
"Seriously"
"you mean broomsticks? Salem? Burning? The whole thing?"
"Yep"

That's about where my head just wants to explode... lol
And no I haven't killed either of them... yet!!
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« Reply #26: July 25, 2007, 07:01:23 pm »

Ok, short version... two guys... beer... stupidity ... mix well... (these two, they are special...)

"You know she's a witch?"
"Aren't they all?"
"No, a real witch"
"Seriously?"
"Seriously"
"you mean broomsticks? Salem? Burning? The whole thing?"
"Yep"

That's about where my head just wants to explode... lol
And no I haven't killed either of them... yet!!

Hahahahaha.
Oh my.
"Aren't they all?"
HAHA.
Sorry.
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« Reply #27: July 25, 2007, 07:04:02 pm »

Hahahahaha.
Oh my.
"Aren't they all?"
HAHA.
Sorry.

Oh they are special lol
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« Reply #28: July 25, 2007, 10:42:23 pm »

Hahahahaha.
Oh my.
"Aren't they all?"

Conjure Wife, a short fantasy/horror novel by Fritz Leiber (first published in the 1940s) was based on this very idea.
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« Reply #29: July 26, 2007, 09:43:43 am »

Neighbours already think we're all slightly odd (ok, we are lol) - especially with the housemate regularly informing potential girlfriends, mates, and random neighbourhood teenagers that "She's a witch, you know. A real one."  Roll Eyes

Oh, that line just spat the best story idea into my brain and I’m already writing two different stories and my head is going to explode if this keeps up. I can’t handle anymore plot bunnies!    [pets her notebook]   ...my precious...
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