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Author Topic: US Switch to Daylight Savings Time: 11 March 2007  (Read 13470 times)
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« Reply #15: March 12, 2007, 03:07:12 pm »

My daughter worked sunday, and had 6 massage appointments.  Only 3 showed up.  she was a bit pissed!

We spent Saturday and Sunday calling all of our clients with appointments reminding them of the time change.  Even so Sunday morning was dead slow.  I think everyone was just asleep.

As for today I heard somewhere that it's been declared national "Nap" day.

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« Reply #16: March 12, 2007, 03:31:37 pm »

What was the reasoning behind doing the time change so early this year? I tried to listen to the video on it but it wouldn't work. So does anyone know?  Huh

A piece from NPR's Morning Edition on the subject:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7786075

Although there's a "listen" link at the top, there's quite a bit of text to read as well.  Apparently it boils down to saving energy, and there's already been doubt shed on the idea that this change will be particularly effective at that.
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« Reply #17: March 12, 2007, 05:59:01 pm »

....there's already been doubt shed on the idea that this change will be particularly effective at that.

Here's a link to a blog with links to article that cast a lot of doubt on the effectiveness of DST for saving energy. Not surprisingly, studies apparently show that what DST really does is shift energy use from evening to morning. When it is dark, people turn on lights. Amazing! Shocked
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« Reply #18: March 12, 2007, 06:46:39 pm »

Not surprisingly, studies apparently show that what DST really does is shift energy use from evening to morning. When it is dark, people turn on lights. Amazing! Shocked

Absolutely shocking.   Roll Eyes  (Hey!  We have an eyeroll smiley now!  Awesome!)
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« Reply #19: March 12, 2007, 07:23:47 pm »

Absolutely shocking.   Roll Eyes  (Hey!  We have an eyeroll smiley now!  Awesome!)

Back in the dark ages - when I was in high school I think - they tried starting DST in February - And there we were standing at the bus stop in Southern California (which doesn't have a real big diference in length of days seasonally compared to Washington state anyway) in the pitch black.  You can imagine the parental outcry at that!
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« Reply #20: March 12, 2007, 07:32:02 pm »

Here's a link to a blog with links to article that cast a lot of doubt on the effectiveness of DST for saving energy. Not surprisingly, studies apparently show that what DST really does is shift energy use from evening to morning. When it is dark, people turn on lights. Amazing! Shocked

That's right. But we should think that people would use lights during a shorter time than they would during evening/night. No? I don't know if what I'm trying to say is really clear...
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« Reply #21: March 12, 2007, 07:50:02 pm »

That's right. But we should think that people would use lights during a shorter time than they would during evening/night. No? I don't know if what I'm trying to say is really clear...

The NPR piece I posted raised an interesting point, too, though:  the way we use energy has changed.  Lights are just the beginning now.  Computers, bigger TVs than in the past, video game systems, DVD players, cable modems, all kinds of things like that--these things are on at particular times regardless of whether the sun's up or not, usually.  So expanding DST doesn't make as much of a difference as it used to in terms of energy consumption.  (Then you get people like my hubby and I whose lights are mostly compact flourescent bulbs, with very few of our regularly-used lights having incandescent bulbs anymore, and the impact lights have gets even lower...)
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« Reply #22: March 12, 2007, 09:39:03 pm »

Back in the dark ages - when I was in high school I think - they tried starting DST in February

I think that was back in the 1970s right after the Arab Oil Embargo. Congress got the brilliant idea of going to Daylight Time year round. Children were walking to school in the dark of night during the winter in many parts of the country. This DID not go over well. Congress changed the law.
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« Reply #23: March 12, 2007, 10:39:09 pm »

The NPR piece I posted raised an interesting point, too, though:  the way we use energy has changed.  Lights are just the beginning now.  Computers, bigger TVs than in the past, video game systems, DVD players, cable modems, all kinds of things like that--these things are on at particular times regardless of whether the sun's up or not, usually.  So expanding DST doesn't make as much of a difference as it used to in terms of energy consumption.  (Then you get people like my hubby and I whose lights are mostly compact flourescent bulbs, with very few of our regularly-used lights having incandescent bulbs anymore, and the impact lights have gets even lower...)

Hmm... Obviously, I've been caught in not reading all the links given!

I didn't think about all the electronics stuff we use... It will be interesting to see in the future which clan will be right.
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« Reply #24: March 13, 2007, 12:00:40 pm »

I think that was back in the 1970s right after the Arab Oil Embargo. Congress got the brilliant idea of going to Daylight Time year round. Children were walking to school in the dark of night during the winter in many parts of the country. This DID not go over well. Congress changed the law.

At least where I was it was just dark - not truly cold. 
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« Reply #25: March 13, 2007, 02:34:02 pm »

I think that was back in the 1970s right after the Arab Oil Embargo. Congress got the brilliant idea of going to Daylight Time year round. Children were walking to school in the dark of night during the winter in many parts of the country. This DID not go over well. Congress changed the law.

I have never understood how anyone could think this was a sensible idea.  Why not just change the times the office or the school is open if one wants to have this effect, rather than going through this bizarre demonstration of detachment from the rhythms of the natural world?
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« Reply #26: March 13, 2007, 05:46:20 pm »

I have never understood how anyone could think this was a sensible idea.  Why not just change the times the office or the school is open if one wants to have this effect, rather than going through this bizarre demonstration of detachment from the rhythms of the natural world?

Probably because you don't think like a politician?  Wink

Also, Congress lacks the constitutional authority to tell businesses when to open and close (remember, Congress can't even require businesses to close for federal holidays), but they can change the time.
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