Is there a time limit for spell casting

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[Shaylee]

Umm...do you have any reason to think magic was involved?  People can do all kinds of things to each other without the aid of magic.

Hi EverFool,

     I agree. I believe that verbal abuse is one of the last accepted forms violence directed towards an individual and may be more damaging than physical violence. Some of those involved were truly vicious and I was merely wondering if the healing/protection should also ward off any possible negative magic as well.

     A friend of mine had a small metaphysical shop years ago. She would have people come in and ask her if she could curse or hex someone for them. This kind of ignorance upset her.  Maybe I'm over thinking and overdoing it.   

     Thanks.

Shaylee

[Shaylee]

well in that case, the uncording might very well work. If you want, i will send it to you. Email me, if you are interested. Or if you have Christopher Penzacks "Inner Temple of Witchcraft" the basic framework of how I do it is in there.

Thanks Rose,

I sent you a PM and hope that I did it correctly.   

Thank you for your kind offer and for the book recommendation.

Shaylee

[rose]

Some of those involved were truly vicious and I was merely wondering if the healing/protection should also ward off any possible negative magic as well.

It will, of course, if you make sure to put that into your intent. I also agree with Everfool that non-magickal people are quite capable of inflicting all kinds of psychic damage. But the really dangerous people are the unconsciously magickal, people who have abilities they are not aware of or suppress-they can be quite harmful.

[rose]

I sent you a PM and hope that I did it correctly.   

Thank you for your kind offer and for the book recommendation.

 you bet

[Jenett]

One thing before getting into your actual question:

Is your work likely to be done in a circle setting (and particularly with the idea that a cast circle is outside normal time and space?) Or, for that matter, anything vaguely applicable.

If so, I know people who've had really good luck with this kind of old hurt of being able to take that step outside of linear time, and to return (in hindsight) in meditation or reflection to an old event, see themselves handling it differently (not necessarily different *events*, but maybe getting to a place of healing faster, realising that they've spent a lot of energy on something that wasn't worth it, etc. and moving on more fully) It's good to be *very* thoughtful about how you go about this/what you want to change/let go of/etc. before you start the work, but it can be really handy, especially when you know that a specific event has been involved.

Is there a limitation to using spells years later after the damage was done? Do people just "get off scot free" if the issue is not addressed as it is happening?

I tend to think that they don't get off free - karma and, quite simply, the consequences of their behavior will eventually catch up with them.

Is this more like seeking revenge or can she seek justice long after the fact if it is still negatively affecting her? If magic is used so long after, will it harm her in stead?

The real question is - what would justice get her? Is she close enough to this guy now that she'd know if his attitude took a major change? What would it change in her life that would let her get on and be happy. In other words, what good would him being miserable do? This long after the fact, it's also tricky to do magical work that's really going to be effective: she's unlikely to know good ways to make sure it's focused on current behavior, his self-identity, and all sorts of other things.

Working on herself, however, is a far better idea, because she's got far more idea what might work, what is relevant to her right now, the best way to speak to her subconscious, etc. etc.




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[Shaylee]

One thing before getting into your actual question:

Is your work likely to be done in a circle setting (and particularly with the idea that a cast circle is outside normal time and space?) Or, for that matter, anything vaguely applicable.

It's good to be *very* thoughtful about how you go about this/what you want to change/let go of/etc. before you start the work, but it can be really handy, especially when you know that a specific event has been involved.

Yes, I do plan to work with a circle. I've mostly practiced visualizing and am now working on using tools and a more formal technique. I am trying to be very careful with my choices for the best and most helpful outcome. I don't want to rush because I want to be confident in my technique.

I tend to think that they don't get off free - karma and, quite simply, the consequences of their behavior will eventually catch up with them.

Working on herself, however, is a far better idea, because she's got far more idea what might work, what is relevant to her right now, the best way to speak to her subconscious, etc. etc.

I've no reason to doubt your sentiment, from my experience, I know that if I'm not mindful of my actions-
I get a lesson which leads to more insight. I've heard some people comment "what goes around- comes around" almost as a curse. I've seen people who seem to thrive on negative behavior. Other people seem to be like score keepers-indulging in Schadenfreude or shameful joy over another's misfortune. It's a mystery to me.

I agree that working on bettering yourself is the best way to go- living in the now and developing a healthy sense of self is best.

Thank you, everyone for caring and being so helpful.

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