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« Reply #75: February 21, 2008, 06:05:54 pm »


So my question is, animism isnt necessarily a fluffy bunny category, is it? Not in my humble opinion.  But I want to know you people's. 

This might sound odd, but if you are a fluffy bunny, then maybe being a fluffy bunny is a really good thing to be. I'd sign up for that club. Good gravy.

But according to the "definition" of fluffy, I don't see how pantheism could qualify. You could be a fluffy pantheist. You can be a fluffy ANYTHING. But being pantheist doesn't make you fluffy. The only people saying things like that are those who really don't understand pantheism. Could be they read a paragraph on it that didn't go deep enough, or they read an article that wasn't very thorough or in-depth, or they only knew one pantheist who was truly "fluffy" and that has colored their perceptions. Or they're on a forum where consensus seems to be that it's fluffy, and they hear it enough to believe it without delving any further than those posts on that one forum... and then they take that around with them. And talk about it like they know, and end up contributing to the idea that it's consensus. And as we all know, consensus = (perceived) fact.

 
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« Reply #76: February 21, 2008, 06:09:21 pm »

But according to the "definition" of fluffy, I don't see how pantheism could qualify. You could be a fluffy pantheist. You can be a fluffy ANYTHING. But being pantheist doesn't make you fluffy. The only people saying things like that are those who really don't understand pantheism.

I encountered a number of fluffy pantheists over the years, but being a pantheist isn't what made them fluffy. Lack of critical thinking and a refusal to accept reality when it differed from what they wanted to believe is what made them fluffy.
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« Reply #77: February 22, 2008, 12:07:32 am »

Lack of critical thinking and a refusal to accept reality when it differed from what they wanted to believe is what made them fluffy.

Oh Man!  Shocked That could be darn near Anybody!  Roll Eyes lol  Cheesy
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« Reply #78: February 22, 2008, 02:38:48 am »

Lack of critical thinking and a refusal to accept reality when it differed from what they wanted to believe is what made them fluffy.

Yep... and that can be anyone, no matter what their theology or lack thereof.
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« Reply #79: February 22, 2008, 04:00:41 am »

Um, is pantheism the same as animism?

I thought animism is the believe that everything has a spirit, while pantheism means everything is divine. I see that they don't contradict each other necessarily, so you can be both, but I thought it were different categories.
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« Reply #80: February 22, 2008, 08:59:58 am »

I thought animism is the believe that everything has a spirit, while pantheism means everything is divine.

Essentially accurate from my understanding.  Animism usually attributes a consciousness to natural bodies such as rocks, plants, rivers, winds, etc. 

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In a more restrictive sense, animism is the belief that souls inhabit all or most objects; it attributes personalized souls to animals, vegetables, and minerals wherein the material object is—to some degree—governed by the qualities which comprise its particular soul. Religions that are animistic in this more restrictive sense generally do not accept a sharp distinction between spirit and matter, and they generally assume that this unification of matter and spirit plays a role in daily life.

Pantheism typically equates the Divine with the Universe in a kind of big picture mentality. 

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pantheism [Gr. pan=all, theos=God], name used to denote any system of belief or speculation that includes the teaching "God is all, and all is God." Pantheism, in other words, identifies the universe with God or God with the universe.


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« Reply #81: May 17, 2008, 12:10:29 pm »

Essentially accurate from my understanding.  Animism usually attributes a consciousness to natural bodies such as rocks, plants, rivers, winds, etc. 

http://www.reference.com/search?q=Animism
Pantheism typically equates the Divine with the Universe in a kind of big picture mentality. 

http://www.reference.com/search?q=Pantheism



Makes sense. I don't think you are fluffy. I've communicated with nature a few times, I think why I feel so out of place in a city environment. A long time ago I read in a book when choosing a tree or any natural object you ask for its permission first and wait for the answer. If its a yes, you leave an offering after you take the item.
I decided to apply this when I was looking for a Christmas tree on those Christmas tree farms. I was with my ex and his family and we walked all through out this place. Then I found the perfect tree. I felt connected to the tree. I hugged it and felt its energy surge through me. I asked if I can take it home for Christmas and it said yes, as the other trees had said no. So they cut down the tree, which I couldn't watch because it looks painful, and I left an offering. Well needless to say this tree stayed green well after X-mas. When they threw the tree outside in Feb. it was still green. I do think that it was because I asked and left an offering that it stayed green for so long and blessed everyone with its presence. Needless to say that was a very good X-mas for everyone.
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