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« Reply #15: September 09, 2007, 07:27:33 pm »

I have an idea for a tattoo (which I'm hoping to convince my husband would be a great Christmas present), but can't draw.  Interested?

I'll give it a shot. What are you thinking of?
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« Reply #16: September 09, 2007, 07:34:40 pm »

I'll give it a shot. What are you thinking of?

A blue Celtic harp with 3 strings, on which each string will have 3 ogam symbols, superimposed over a large, green traditional Brighid's cross, encircled somehow by abstract flames and water.

Make any sense at all?
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« Reply #17: September 09, 2007, 07:40:34 pm »

A blue Celtic harp with 3 strings, on which each string will have 3 ogam symbols, superimposed over a large, green traditional Brighid's cross, encircled somehow by abstract flames and water.

Make any sense at all?

wow that's a tough one! Shocked I don't know how good I can do with it. But it would be an interesting challenge!! yes it does make sense to me, it'll be a little bit until I can get to it though; I am still adjusting to a new job.

ETA: by "a little bit" I mean a few days to a week.
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« Reply #18: September 09, 2007, 07:45:13 pm »

A blue Celtic harp with 3 strings, on which each string will have 3 ogam symbols, superimposed over a large, green traditional Brighid's cross, encircled somehow by abstract flames and water.

The only thing I would be worried about is that it's get too crowded with so much stuff and so many colors. I'd probably drop the strings and just have the symbols. And maybe just chose to do red and blue in the elements and leave the cross and harp black and white.
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« Reply #19: September 09, 2007, 07:55:42 pm »

The only thing I would be worried about is that it's get too crowded with so much stuff and so many colors. I'd probably drop the strings and just have the symbols. And maybe just chose to do red and blue in the elements and leave the cross and harp black and white.

Actually I'm not sure which ogham symbols Moon was thinking of, but I was going to use the strings as *part of* the symbols. Depending on size, though, it might get too crowded and you'll need a very good tattooist to pull it off.
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« Reply #20: September 09, 2007, 10:02:47 pm »

Actually I'm not sure which ogham symbols Moon was thinking of, but I was going to use the strings as *part of* the symbols. Depending on size, though, it might get too crowded and you'll need a very good tattooist to pull it off.

Exacty.  The strings are the vertical line of the ogam feda.  So it's refularly hapr strings, with small lines either extending from them to the left or right, or crossing them, depending on the specific symbol.  See here for examples of the symbols:

http://www.shee-eire.com/Magic&Mythology/Ogham/Ogham.htm


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« Reply #21: September 09, 2007, 10:12:13 pm »

Exacty.  The strings are the vertical line of the ogam feda.  So it's refularly hapr strings, with small lines either extending from them to the left or right, or crossing them, depending on the specific symbol.  See here for examples of the symbols:

That tattoo sounds quite lovely and quite right for you  Wink--which feda are you doing?
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« Reply #22: September 09, 2007, 10:43:33 pm »

That tattoo sounds quite lovely and quite right for you  Wink--which feda are you doing?

I'm not positve yet.  B, L, D, and T for sure.  Maybe I,G, H.  Maybe O.  Maybe Sr.  That's 9, so that might be the 9.

I need to see if the graphic concept will work at all, since I'm so visually-impaired when it comes to "seeing" pictures.

My daughter's boyfriend is also an artist and got excited about this when I described it.  So maybe, between him, Dania, and any other artist who is interested (Aionia?), something wrokable as a tattoo will emerge.

I know it'll have to be pretty big -- I'm thinking shoulder blade sized, or so.  (Left side.)
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« Reply #23: September 10, 2007, 02:30:28 pm »

I need to see if the graphic concept will work at all, since I'm so visually-impaired when it comes to "seeing" pictures.

I believe it will. I can visualize it pretty well.
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« Reply #24: September 10, 2007, 04:02:44 pm »

A blue Celtic harp with 3 strings, on which each string will have 3 ogam symbols, superimposed over a large, green traditional Brighid's cross, encircled somehow by abstract flames and water.

Here's what I came up with:



Sorry about the bad scan. If you like the design and decide what ogham symbols you want, I'll add them in and then get you a better scan Smiley
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« Reply #25: September 10, 2007, 04:54:20 pm »

Sorry about the bad scan. If you like the design and decide what ogham symbols you want, I'll add them in and then get you a better scan Smiley

One note on harps is that if you have the strings running vertical like that, it's totally unplayable (and will get a bunch of musicians staring at it going "Huh. Erm. You know that's unplayable, right?")

What you want is strings running from the top piece to the soundboard (which is the slanted vertical piece that rests against the harpist while playing.) The image on http://gleewood.org/ is from a color-manipulated photo of my harp: it shows the angles pretty nicely.

[edited to pull the image out, for loading time, since it's right above]

(Other than that: cool design!)
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« Reply #26: September 10, 2007, 05:00:33 pm »

One note on harps is that if you have the strings running vertical like that, it's totally unplayable (and will get a bunch of musicians staring at it going "Huh. Erm. You know that's unplayable, right?")

What you want is strings running from the top piece to the soundboard (which is the slanted vertical piece that rests against the harpist while playing.) The image on http://gleewood.org/ is from a color-manipulated photo of my harp: it shows the angles pretty nicely.

[edited to pull the image out, for loading time, since it's right above]

(Other than that: cool design!)

Yea, I guess you're right. I knew that. I was looking at a pretty crummy reference photo though; d'oh. Bad angle, couldn't see what I was looking at. Can you tell I've never actually played a harp? (would love to, though!)
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« Reply #27: September 11, 2007, 10:53:40 pm »

Here's what I came up with:

Wow!!!  That is gorgeous!

Making the strings diagonal seems like a good idea...  Even so, though, do you thing the ogam symbols would read against the dark green Brighid's cross?  Maybe there's anothe way to incorporate them...?

This is very close to what is in my head.  I especially love the way the waves turn into flames.
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« Reply #28: September 12, 2007, 02:27:16 pm »

Wow!!!  That is gorgeous!

Making the strings diagonal seems like a good idea...  Even so, though, do you thing the ogam symbols would read against the dark green Brighid's cross?  Maybe there's anothe way to incorporate them...?

This is very close to what is in my head.  I especially love the way the waves turn into flames.

I think they would show up. The problem is going to be changing the strings around in the drawing now...I might have to totally re-draw it in order to do it. Why did I have to find a bad reference pic...
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« Reply #29: September 12, 2007, 03:07:27 pm »

I think they would show up. The problem is going to be changing the strings around in the drawing now...I might have to totally re-draw it in order to do it. Why did I have to find a bad reference pic...

If you're going to be re-drawing it anyway, why not leave the strings vertical and slant the harp itself, as if it was leaning against an invisible harpist?  That way you can still do the runes in a vertical line.  I don't know if that's important at all, but it might be more easy to see them 'upright' than slanted or staggered along a diagonal.

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