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« Reply #15: September 10, 2007, 06:52:34 pm »

Yup, the RW is my prime.

Given I've said before that RW and I do not get along well, for some reason this thread clarified in my mind finally why not, although I can't find the specific quote right now. And it's just the way my mind 'catches' the meanings in the imagery.... RW doesn't have the 'kind' of imagery I need  (at least not to be able to read it relatively easily) Undecided
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« Reply #16: September 10, 2007, 07:54:21 pm »

Yup, the RW is my prime.

Tim, your experience of it being capricious (etc) seemed very odd to me; at first glance, very different from my own experience.  But even before I read what Absent and Jenett had to say, I was wondering if the appearance of caprice was your RW trying to read according to its particular strengths, and conflicting with what you expect from a reading.

My gifts for reading tarot, with pretty much any deck, focus heavily on "matters of the spirit" in the broadest sense (not just religious-spiritual but whatever feeds the spirit) and on personal development.  I get boatloads about personal characteristics and how they apply to situations, past emotional/spiritual issues that are demanding resolution, what's required for personal growth, etc.  The very areas where, by Absent's and Jenett's accounts as well as my experiences, the RW shines - so it's no wonder I love it; its strengths and my gifts combine very well.

Is yours really telling you things that aren't happening, or is it talking about what's happening on a different (more emotional/spiritual) level?

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Capricious is possibly the wrong word.

It's fun.  It's helpful.  It's very much something that reads better on a personal level, and I can only really use it with people I have a connection to.  I can't imagine using it for a cold reading, unlike the Universal Waite.

"Capricious" came because the readings have a sense of humor.  A gentle snark, I suppose, which may just be it tapping my own sense of humor.

And my brain just went "oh" because I realized that the reason it's telling me about things that aren't happening is that more things that I ask it about aren't happening than are happening.  Nonetheless, it is somewhat more subtle than the UW, and I haven't learned all of its nuances yet.
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« Reply #17: September 25, 2007, 03:49:34 pm »

*looks around curiously*

Hey, i got a deck of "ascended masters" oracle cards as a present for the oul birthday recently. They DO work, but with a snaffu on my part: i can get the answers im looking for, like a dart of images and words in my head for about a second. Bad being that its difficult to decipher, i can get bits and peices from it, but not the whole jigsaw.

Any ideas how i could go about improving my perceptiveness to this?
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« Reply #18: September 25, 2007, 04:09:02 pm »

Any ideas how i could go about improving my perceptiveness to this?

Practice.  If the information comes to you all in one quick impression, rather than being drawn out by the individual cards, then you need to learn to retain it long enough to analyse it and put it into words for the person you're reading for.  If you're reading for yourself, and you can hold onto the understanding you get, then all well and good. 

Mining that information bubble for someone else's benefit, however, is a little like dream recall.  You have the sense of it, and maybe even some advice or an answer.  What you need is the detail and some logical steps in getting from problem to solution.

Practice and journalling can help.  If you write down what you can recall of the 'burst', that will remind you of other parts and details that didn't stay in the first layer of your memory.  Eventually you will be able to hold the info in your head while you are relaying it to someone else, or examining it yourself, and be able to separate the parts from the whole.

Perception is often instinctive when reading cards.  Description and interpretation are learned arts.

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« Reply #19: September 25, 2007, 04:24:51 pm »

Perception is often instinctive when reading cards.  Description and interpretation are learned arts.

Something i firmly believe myself!

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« Reply #20: October 04, 2007, 05:57:25 pm »

Tarot related work, and said, basically "You do much better with words.

The Rohrig Tarot has LOTS Of words on it.    But, the words are in handwriting that is sometimes hard to read, the deck is much larger than standard (3.5" x 6.5") and very phallic Shocked in the artwork .   Also includes runes and "hebrew" symbols on the cards of the major arcana.    The artwork is fantastic in spite of the phallic stuff and I like the words, symbols and size, but as a Mom, I wouldn't recommend it for a juvenile reading.

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« Reply #21: October 04, 2007, 09:25:58 pm »

The Rohrig Tarot has LOTS Of words on it.    But, the words are in handwriting that is sometimes hard to read, the deck is much larger than standard (3.5" x 6.5") and very phallic Shocked in the artwork .   Also includes runes and "hebrew" symbols on the cards of the major arcana.    The artwork is fantastic in spite of the phallic stuff and I like the words, symbols and size, but as a Mom, I wouldn't recommend it for a juvenile reading.

Huh. Interesting. (For those curious, there's a few images at http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/rohrig/index.shtml which is my preferred "what does this deck look like")

It's probably more accurate to say that I do better with verbal content. I keep thinking about poking at runes (and other alphabets: I read ancient Greek, but that's it) but I don't feel a draw to do so. Without that, I'm unlikely to get the gestalt that I get with my quote deck.

Just individual words doesn't seem to work as well for me, for some reason, either. Maybe I just function best in sentences or phrases or something.
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« Reply #22: October 05, 2007, 10:06:55 pm »

Just individual words doesn't seem to work as well for me, for some reason, either. Maybe I just function best in sentences or phrases or something.

Maybe it is just that your phrases that have the most meaning for you.  They are the "mnemonic" trigger to the meaning of the reading for you.  It is great that you were able to create meaningful cards for yourself.   I think it is going to take ages for me to do this.   Particularly as I am a visual person.  Undecided

(BTW, the Prince of Cups in the Rohrig deck is probably the most "graphic" card, but then again it is supposed to represent desire.    Still I think the art is amazing.   I really like the death card too.   Instead of a man, it is a young woman with the image of a skull in her enlarged abdomen, reminding that death as a form of rebirth.)
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« Reply #23: October 07, 2007, 10:26:30 pm »

I had the same issue a few years ago when I was just getting into tarot as a teenager. I grew up with it in the house (my mother), so I was to seeing it and how it worked, the decks she had, etc.

I had that silly little "Learn Tarot" deck thing. Mine was a boxed one with two small decks, one Waite and the other Thoth. My mom turned me off of Thoth's although I enjoyed the dark images, used the Waite for a while till she borrowed it for her purse...

Anyways, eventually got the normal size version of Waite and The Halloween Tarot (Halloween Waite basically). Halloween never gave me much unlike the Waite I used for a few years up until recent purchase at PSG with the deck Revelations. Beautiful deck!

I partly think it's both. You have to practice, you have to understand. At the same time however, your cards are imbued with a magic that you are either going to be able to connect with or not. The Halloween a few years back didn't let me connect with it, Waite did. Revelation's has. 
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« Reply #24: October 07, 2007, 10:31:06 pm »

At the same time however, your cards are imbued with a magic that you are either going to be able to connect with or not.

I agree that you will either "connect" well with a deck or not. I'm not sure any magic is involved, however, other that that of art and imagery. Either the art and imagery of a deck works well for you or it doesn't.
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« Reply #25: October 07, 2007, 10:45:44 pm »

I agree that you will either "connect" well with a deck or not. I'm not sure any magic is involved, however, other that that of art and imagery. Either the art and imagery of a deck works well for you or it doesn't.

More of a word of use than anything for my reply  Grin
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