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« Reply #15: September 26, 2007, 01:43:10 pm »

I think there's different kinds of 'feeling silly'.

I feel "silly" doing just about anything new, whether I'm well suited for it or not. It isn't until I am very confident in myself that it stops feeling "silly". Until then, I just do it.

Like with Reiki - I feel hugely silly doing the elaborate handwaving that I learned to "turn on" the Reiki energy. I've tried doing less hand-wavy methods, and they just don't work as well for me. I still don't like having to do the handwaving with anyone watching, but it gets easier with time.

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« Reply #16: September 26, 2007, 06:00:53 pm »

Anytime you feel silly doing something, it is always my impression that what you are doing isn't right for you. Try other methods. You might prefer to use tools such as crystals, stones, or wood or you might just want to get into a meditative state. Different methods work better for different people. You will need to play around and see what feels right.

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how would you use stones and wood?
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« Reply #17: September 26, 2007, 07:23:53 pm »

The circle casting exercise is a great place to begin with the pendulum, whether or not you've ever dowsed with one.
I have a fondness for pendulums for some reason, and I've never thought of using them in a circle like that!

I don't really use them for divination much, because they are so easy to manipulate. But they definitely help people to recognize energy. Another interesting thing to do is hold the pendulum over a picture of a person... it will generally circle clockwise over a female and counter-clockwise over a male. Sit in a chair and hold your pendulum above your left knee. It will circle counter-clockwise. And vice versa for the other knee. Neat little things, pendulums.

And pendulums don't have to be fancy... I've used "real" ones, and I like the one I made the best. A hefty ring (mine was actually made from the handle of a fork or spoon) and a piece of cord will do the trick.

More on the topic at hand... feeling silly is usually just your "adult" brain, as others have mentioned. In order to tap into energy, you have to get over it to a certain extent. It's kind of like acting or speaking in public...
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« Reply #18: September 26, 2007, 08:09:53 pm »

I have a fondness for pendulums for some reason, and I've never thought of using them in a circle like that!

I don't really use them for divination much, because they are so easy to manipulate. But they definitely help people to recognize energy. Another interesting thing to do is hold the pendulum over a picture of a person... it will generally circle clockwise over a female and counter-clockwise over a male. Sit in a chair and hold your pendulum above your left knee. It will circle counter-clockwise. And vice versa for the other knee. Neat little things, pendulums.

seriously? i need to try that. all you have to do is tie something heavy on a string?
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« Reply #19: September 26, 2007, 09:02:18 pm »

And if you have no idea how to..., pretend. Imagine what it would feel like if you knew what you were doing. Eventually, with practice, it'll get to a point where you are not just imagining it.
I took out "push energy" because there are so many things this could apply to.

This is the advice that so many books (lots of otherwise-good ones, as well as not-so-good) fail to give - I think it's because of the negative connotations we associate with "pretend" and "imagine".

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« Reply #20: September 26, 2007, 10:01:55 pm »

all you have to do is tie something heavy on a string?

well, try it out. It might not work for you. I use necklaces, myself. Pendulums work for some and not for others. And I agree that they are dicey for divination, at least ime.
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« Reply #21: September 26, 2007, 10:35:41 pm »

I took out "push energy" because there are so many things this could apply to.

This is the advice that so many books (lots of otherwise-good ones, as well as not-so-good) fail to give - I think it's because of the negative connotations we associate with "pretend" and "imagine".

I've found that many good books and people fail to give one part of this advice or the other - Either they don't even suggest that "pretending" as a first step, or they do suggest it but neglect to point out that simply pretending doesn't mean you are actually doing it.

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« Reply #22: September 27, 2007, 01:42:10 am »


Like with Reiki - I feel hugely silly doing the elaborate handwaving that I learned to "turn on" the Reiki energy. I've tried doing less hand-wavy methods, and they just don't work as well for me. I still don't like having to do the handwaving with anyone watching, but it gets easier with time.

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Trick time.  Instead of that hand waving, try holding your hands in prayer position (palm to palm, fingertips touching), and take a couple nice slow deep breaths while you bring your hands to a resting position in front of your breast bone.  Gently focus on raising the energy while you continue slow, deep, circular breathing.  If you wish, consciously express your intention that the energy flow through your hands.

circular breathing = no pause between inhale and exhale, no pause between exhale and inhale.  Your breath moves in an infinite circle.

Your hands are positioned  in the heart chakra and that energy center tends to "jump start" the feeling of flow.  It seems like getting started is the toughest part of the job and that little technique helps when nothing else will.

One thing to remember as a Reiki channel, as soon as you express your intention for the energy to flow, it starts flowing.  Whether you feel it flowing or not, it is flowing.  It's kind of a human thing to want to feel it flow.
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« Reply #23: September 27, 2007, 08:56:10 pm »

seriously? i need to try that. all you have to do is tie something heavy on a string?
lol. Essentially, yes. The weight will facilitate it circling or swinging, and that's basically all a pendulum is. Of course, when you work with anything magically, you are going to have *much* better results if what you use has personal meaning or you've invested in it somehow.
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« Reply #24: September 29, 2007, 09:32:28 pm »


I did the exercise that makes you feel like you're trying the bring together two opposite magnets. I felt *something* all right, but I'm not convinced it was energy/magic. You know how thinking about something makes you more aware of it, like, thinking that something hurts makes it hurt more than if you just forget about something, or thinking about an itch makes you more aware of it. Is just thinking about your hands and noticing this sensation just an illusion?
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« Reply #25: September 30, 2007, 09:18:31 am »

Practice makes perfect, right? So how can I practice manipulating my energy or magic or whatever it's called to get my spells stronger? I feel like one of my problems is that I feel nervous when I do spell work like 'is this gonna work, is this gonna work, is this gonna work?' rolling over and over inside my head and keeping me from concentrating on what I'm doing, and I think that if I get into a routine of working with magic, the actual spells won't seem like such a big deal and I won't get as nervous.

Maybe if you found a way to sneak up on it.  Doing something that you naturally raise energy while doing, and then giving that energy a shove in the direction of your choice.

When gardening I build up a pretty decent charge, that I direct back into the plants.  If I were to have another place of need in life, I would divert that energy into whatever other cause I have.  Playing guitar, or drawing also builds a charge.  If I'm drawing, I can focus, and draw my desired outcome, and direct my energy and attention into the drawing to create an outcome, or making it more likely.

The action is one that requires focused attention and motion.  There is no 'rest of me' left to ask questions, because that part is busy participating.
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« Reply #26: September 30, 2007, 10:34:33 am »

Practice makes perfect, right? So how can I practice manipulating my energy or magic or whatever it's called to get my spells stronger? I feel like one of my problems is that I feel nervous when I do spell work like 'is this gonna work, is this gonna work, is this gonna work?' rolling over and over inside my head and keeping me from concentrating on what I'm doing, and I think that if I get into a routine of working with magic, the actual spells won't seem like such a big deal and I won't get as nervous.

Heres a thing that works for me, guess its worth a shot!

Instead of clearing your mind, think of nothing; just blank. Then, just do whatever it is ya wanna do! instantaneous fun with weird tingly stuff.... is there any better night in?!
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« Reply #27: September 30, 2007, 11:53:10 am »

yeah, that's it *exactly*

is the ball thing when you rub your hands together really fast until you work up a lot of heat from the friction and tried to shape that into a ball. I like that one, but I still feel stupid sitting there rubbing my hands together. lol, I'm hopeless...

Don't rub.

I rub my hands together briskly, more like I'm bushing away crumbs, not for more than 3-five seconds, and then flick like you're shaking them dry, repeat a few times. (3-10ish)

Then the tingle is a nerve one, not connected to any kind of friction generated heat.  It feels more like pins and needles, and prickly than warm.  It feels more 'static' ish than warm.  When you really get going with it it can feel like there is something crawling on your hands.

Doing it with another person is a pretty trippy version as well.  Sometimes it's easier to feel another persons energy than your own.  Like when you kiss someone, and they have a taste, but your own mouth for the most part tastes like nothing.  (Same for the 'other peoples house' smell.)

I would feel stupid sitting there rubbing my hands together as well.
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« Reply #28: September 30, 2007, 01:18:32 pm »

I did the exercise that makes you feel like you're trying the bring together two opposite magnets. I felt *something* all right, but I'm not convinced it was energy/magic. You know how thinking about something makes you more aware of it, like, thinking that something hurts makes it hurt more than if you just forget about something, or thinking about an itch makes you more aware of it. Is just thinking about your hands and noticing this sensation just an illusion?

how would you use stones and wood?


It is my personal belief that magic is basically the manipulation of personal energy.  There is an exercise you can do with a stone that uses body heat and friction to manipulate energy. This is a good exercise if you have problems beliveing in unseen energy that cannot be proven, because with this one you can actually test your results.

If you take a smooth cold stone and place it between your palms, it will eventually be warmed by your body heat. You can speed up the process by rubbing your hands together to create friction and cause the stone to heat faster.  No magic there, just the laws of nature.

After you feel the stone warming up you can test its heat (energy) by touching the stone to your cheek. It won't feel as warm as it did in your palms, because your palms are also energy charged from the stone and friction.The next step is to concentrate on raising the level of energy (heat) with your will power, not just through the physical movements. Again, you can test the warmth and duration of the heat. You will know you are making progress when the stone gets warmer and stays warmer longer when you use your mind as well as your body.

How hot the stone becomes and how long it stays warm are a test of how much personal energy you have raised. I have actually had stones get so hot I have had to stop from the heat build-up.

This is an exercise that you can actually test because it has to do with personal energy in the form of transfering heat.

It is good to be skeptical at first along any path. It is sometimes hard to tell if something is really happening or if you just think it is because you want it to.

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« Reply #29: September 30, 2007, 01:35:47 pm »


It is my personal belief that magic is basically the manipulation of personal energy.  There is an exercise you can do with a stone that uses body heat and friction to manipulate energy. This is a good exercise if you have problems beliveing in unseen energy that cannot be proven, because with this one you can actually test your results.

If you take a smooth cold stone and place it between your palms, it will eventually be warmed by your body heat. You can speed up the process by rubbing your hands together to create friction and cause the stone to heat faster.  No magic there, just the laws of nature.

After you feel the stone warming up you can test its heat (energy) by touching the stone to your cheek. It won't feel as warm as it did in your palms, because your palms are also energy charged from the stone and friction.The next step is to concentrate on raising the level of energy (heat) with your will power, not just through the physical movements. Again, you can test the warmth and duration of the heat. You will know you are making progress when the stone gets warmer and stays warmer longer when you use your mind as well as your body.

cool, thanks!

 to make sure I understand. first, you take a stone, any stone. one that i like. and i rub it to create friction and make it warm. i hold it up to my cheek and it won't feel as warm. then, i try to raise the heat of the stone by pushing my energy into the stone, and leaving it on my cheek, or taking it away?
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