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« Topic Start: October 02, 2007, 02:41:57 pm »

 Well I got my wish and we're keeping one of the bengal kittens. A russian blue tabby, named Smokey (formerly known as Ranger). He's been settling in rather well, running around and just having a great time in the a/c.
 
The problem is the other two monsters, Barnaby and Pantera (12lbs and 14lbs, respectively) are not agreeing with our little new comer. Barnaby is following and hissing, though not actually doing anything. And Pantera our resident princess, is hiding convinced my grandmother has brought forth the plauge of Eygpt.

Any advice, short of sitting on Barnaby's head and doping up Pantera? I could pen them in my room, or I could keep Smokey in there.
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« Reply #1: October 02, 2007, 02:50:59 pm »

Any advice, short of sitting on Barnaby's head and doping up Pantera? I could pen them in my room, or I could keep Smokey in there.

Well, the first thing you need to do is separate the baby from the adults. I don't know how old he is or how much he weighs, but you don't want a baby having to fend for himself against two adults. When I brought in babies in the past, I generally had them in a separate room while they put on age/weight/size. In some cases, that was for several weeks just depending on the kitten.

If you can, try to separate them for several days and let them sniff at each other under the door. If you have a crate, putting the kitten in it and bringing him into a more neutral setting and letting one adult at a time sniff the crate may help. Also, you really want to introduce each adult separately in that neutral area. They're not going to be best buddies right off the bat (the kitten is encroaching on their territory), but I've had an adult female pin and try to rip open the stomach of a baby. You really don't want that.

In theory, if you've got a cat who is extremely bonded to you, that's going to be more difficult to overcome. I know when I had Gunner here, and I was totally and completely "his", and we brought Savoy in, there was a problem between the two initially whenever I got involved. They were better together alone. That took a week or two to work out, but keep it in mind because it can be a problem.
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« Reply #2: October 02, 2007, 04:01:05 pm »

Any advice, short of sitting on Barnaby's head and doping up Pantera? I could pen them in my room, or I could keep Smokey in there.

I've been dealing with this myself- my boyfriend and I recently got two kittens and he already had a cat that was very much in charge of the place.

As Lyric said, keep them separated. It's better if the adults can't even see the kitten at first. Let them smell a blanket the kitten sleeps on a lot. Later, let the adults see the kitten but not be able to get to him (we used a plexi-glass divider, but a pet/baby gate would work too). Introduce them very slowly- I generally put food down for all the animals a good distance apart, so they know they're still getting as much food as they used to and the kitten isn't going to eat it all on them. Any interaction at first really should be supervised, and treats and toys are good to keep them distracted and happy.

All in all, be patient. When my mom brought home kittens after one of my cats died, the surviving cat took several months to decide the kittens weren't evil. It's not going to happen overnight, and hissing is normal. Good luck!
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« Reply #3: October 02, 2007, 04:40:40 pm »

I probably will keep him in my room at night, but I'm going to let him stay out while there's some one here to keep an eye on him.

Right now he's sleeping on my lap, frog-splash style...
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« Reply #4: October 02, 2007, 04:54:53 pm »



Aionia,

Something you need to remember is that the situation between him and your adults can change in a heartbeat. It can escalate to really ugly, really fast and its something that can effect his relationship with the other cat(s) forever. So be sure that if you're leaving the room, you take him with you.
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« Reply #5: October 02, 2007, 06:07:17 pm »



I agree completely with Lyric's reminder that the kitten should not be left alone at all with the older cats.  It doesn't take much for a kitten to get badly hurt.  If a cat is going to scratch another cat, they often go for the eyes.  In a single adult swat of a kitten, you can end up with a serious, and potentially permanent eye injury. 

Don't leave them alone. 
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« Reply #6: October 02, 2007, 06:35:08 pm »

I agree completely with Lyric's reminder that the kitten should not be left alone at all with the older cats.  It doesn't take much for a kitten to get badly hurt.  If a cat is going to scratch another cat, they often go for the eyes.  In a single adult swat of a kitten, you can end up with a serious, and potentially permanent eye injury. 

Don't leave them alone. 

Personal story here...when I brought Gunner in, I had an older female cat who'd had at least two litters of kitten before I rescued her. She was what I laughingly called a referee over my litters of puppies (if they got too rough, she would literally get in the middle of them; she also got between my mother and my great aunt who had Alzheimer's one night...totally fearless girl). Great momma cat. She HATED Gunner. He must have been only 6-8 weeks when I brought him in and he spent several weeks camping out in a spare bedroom gaining weight and size.

At the time, I was really mostly worried about the dachshunds since I had seven then. One day I had them up and him out loose and Bernadette caught him in the bathroom. She pinned him on his back on the floor in the corner and went after him. I didn't think I'd get her off him without getting hurt.

Needless to say, Gunner hated her for the rest of his life. He wouldn't go out of his way to torment her, but he hated her and would take out after her if he was jsut a little bit pissy.

That experience is the main reason I wasn't interested in bringing a baby in here.
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« Reply #7: October 03, 2007, 07:17:18 pm »

At the time, I was really mostly worried about the dachshunds since I had seven then. One day I had them up and him out loose and Bernadette caught him in the bathroom. She pinned him on his back on the floor in the corner and went after him. I didn't think I'd get her off him without getting hurt.

Needless to say, Gunner hated her for the rest of his life. He wouldn't go out of his way to torment her, but he hated her and would take out after her if he was jsut a little bit pissy.   That experience is the main reason I wasn't interested in bringing a baby in here.

Oh, no!  Poor Gunner! 

That only goes to show that caution is needed.  Every six months or so, we get someone on the cat forum who has had a kitten get a badly scratched cornea from an older-cat-kiiten melee...  and in one case, the kitten was blinded.  It just goes to show that care has to be taken...  adult/kitten fights do happen and the cards are stacked in favor of the adult.       
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« Reply #8: October 03, 2007, 07:40:46 pm »

Oh, no!  Poor Gunner! 

And you could have knocked me over with a feather because Bernadette was the ultimate momma cat. But not that time.
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