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« Reply #60: August 22, 2008, 10:11:25 pm »

Even if there were heathen temples on every street corner it would mean nothing to me.  Just like the self declared Gothi and priests mean nothing to me now.  I would still be solitary.  They are unnecessary.  We don't need anyone special to lead ceremonies and we don't need special rooms to have the ceremonies in.  The only purpose a church would serve is to control people.
I don't need a building to worship in.  To me nature is my church.
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« Reply #61: August 22, 2008, 10:20:22 pm »

I don't need a building to worship in.  To me nature is my church.

This reminds me of one of my favorite Emily Dickinson poems:

Some keep the Sabbath going to Church
I keep it, staying at Home
With a Bobolink for a Chorister
And an Orchard, for a Dome

Some keep the Sabbath in Surplice
I just wear my Wings
And instead of tolling the Bell, for Church,
Our little Sexton sings.

God preaches, a noted Clergyman
And the sermon is never long,
So instead of getting to Heaven, at last
Im going, all along.

 
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« Reply #62: August 22, 2008, 10:28:11 pm »

I don't need a building to worship in.  To me nature is my church.

The church in the article is not a building, but an organization and social infrastructure.
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« Reply #63: August 24, 2008, 01:36:20 pm »

The church in the article is not a building, but an organization and social infrastructure.

I agree.  The author is talking about building a community to bring pagans together.  A church, club, coven whatever you want to call it, is all about a group of like minded people coming together.

You can have a meeting anywhere, outside, in a home, a grand temple, wherever, it's the people that make a church. 

I think a pagan churches for some of the various paths could be a great educational tool.  I know I'd like to have someone to go to to learn about paganism.  Here in Vegas, I've been mostly having to read book after book.  Granted, that's necessary but it sure would be nice if it were easy to find someone that was knowledgeable in a specific path. 

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« Reply #64: August 24, 2008, 03:48:30 pm »

I agree.  The author is talking about building a community to bring pagans together.  A church, club, coven whatever you want to call it, is all about a group of like minded people coming together.


Glad you agree, especially since I wrote the article.
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« Reply #65: May 01, 2009, 07:09:00 pm »

Thanks so much for clearing this up!  I really appreciate it, I think I was thrown off by the title a bit. It makes much more sense now that you have explained its roots. Yes, there are many who want / need support in a more formal way. I have tried out a CUUPs group, not as a religious base so much as a way to network with other pagans but the group sort of fell apart. Technically, I am still a member of a UU Church although I haven't really been attending for about two years.

I think I would like to see some real temples to the gods, even though i do practice at home.  At best right now I think I could get into a UU church, but when the s**t hits the fan, I think I'd want a temple where I could ask father Iove and the rest the meaning of the hard things. 

'tis not always easy being a stranger in a strange land.
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« Reply #66: May 04, 2009, 12:51:10 pm »

Kudos, fellow Druid! Wink

In front of me lies the hard task to write a convincing essay why the Pagan organization we are founding with some friends will have mandatory donations per every meeting/ritual/service.

If a donation is "mandatory" then it's not a donation, it's a fee. I think everyone involved in a group should do their fair share in giving time and money but it should be relative to the time/money people have.
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