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« Reply #255: October 23, 2009, 10:09:37 am »

That's scary. If Cunningham is too hard, then I'm afraid to see what they think is "just right"? Would it be something about the level of "Run, witch, run?"

I think we will just have to go completely hardcore and start with 'The Worst Witch' series by Jill Murphy. I know, a very difficult and challenging start point, but I believe that we should all be able to muddle through if we all help each other out!  Wink

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« Reply #256: October 23, 2009, 10:22:41 am »

At 13 (back in the early 1970s), I was reading books like Huson's Mastering Witchcraft, Regardie's The Golden Dawn, and Gardner's Witchcraft Today. I really think we underestimate what teens can read and understand.

I remember ordering Cornelius Agrippa's Occult Philosopies into our local, regional linrary when I was about 8-10. I had to get my mother to come down and approve it (it was around 1976-78, shortly after my brother dies anyways, which was '75).

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« Reply #257: October 23, 2009, 01:05:58 pm »

I've even heard it suggested that Scott Cunningham's books are "too hard" for teens

I'll just stand here with my mouth open like everyone else.

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« Reply #258: October 23, 2009, 03:39:53 pm »

What kind of drugs would a witch do? For what purpose?

I'm not Wiccan, but I can speak for myself and my spiritual beliefs and practices. I believe the Sacred Plant is a gift to humans, and should be used with care caution and honesty. A mature adult can use it as a way of seeing visions, talking to the Goddess (or the God), or for a celebration. No, I am not a drug addict, I do not jones for my next fix. I use it responsibly and have gotten much good from it.
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« Reply #259: October 23, 2009, 04:37:05 pm »

They're old enough to be reading much better and more accurate books, then.


for the most part, they are with the one exception of the 13 year old who is still muddling her way through the basics. the rest have moved on to more in depth studies.
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« Reply #260: October 23, 2009, 10:18:09 pm »

That's scary. If Cunningham is too hard, then I'm afraid to see what they think is "just right"? Would it be something about the level of "Run, witch, run?"
In one instance, it was said as part of a justification of why SRW's books were necessary Roll Eyes.

Myself, I suspect "too hard" is code for either (or both) "speaks as though the reader is an equal, which obviously cannot be true of a teen reader," or "not sanitized enough".  Both of which are ephebiphobic crap.


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« Reply #261: October 23, 2009, 10:42:19 pm »

Both of which are ephebiphobic crap.

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« Reply #262: April 26, 2010, 05:05:22 pm »

*nods*  The thing that gets me is she's so damned condescending about it all.  Like, I don't have any intrinsic moral issues with a teen keeping mum about his/her religious explorations around parents who would object -- I don't think "freedom of religion" is something that should be reserved solely for those over 18.  But, dude, if a teen can't figure out *on their own* if they need to keep things on the down-low until they get out of the house, and be willing to take the consequences if found out, that kind of falls under my "too dumb to be trying this stuff in the first place" heading.   I just don't get why she feels the need to *tell* kids explicitly to misrepresent what they're doing and suggests a possible course.  Meanwhile, I'm rolling my eyes and going, "Back in MY day, kids KNEW how to hide stuff from their parents without any damned prompting!  Lazy, spoiled young whippersnappers!"

I just LOVE how you put this LOL!  That said I am one of those (fairly) young whippersnappers.... I certainly was when I first read her books,  But IDK I managed to escape rather unscathed IMO.  Aside from a *bit* of the history, but I took it as speculative anyway.  I have really struggled with the "Bad Authors" as many of them are on my favorites list.  OTOH I never limited to them, I would seek out others on purpose.  But you cant have everyone happy,  I mean people even try to discredit Gardner so.....  I always took SRW lie to you parents thing as kids who would do it anyway.  I guess I just didnt think too much of it because it did not effect me, and it still does not, as my kids are free to look into what they want (so long as Mom and Dad are not "evil")  IDK though because I hear people say the first few books are okay up to Teen Witch, and I have only read the To Ride To Stir and Teen Witch... So maybe I got out before it REALLY got bad?  Then again if I didnt come to conclusions from my own common sense I would A: cross reference Or B: Toss in on the garbage heap until I found proof.... So yes I am sure some things dont line up with what others think is proper but at least I came up with why more or less on my own

But as they say now common sense is not all that common!

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